The game isnt balanced for GM

I am not.

Something that I know for 100%: They keep OWL and GM in mind when making balance choices.

Something I have absolutely no way of knowing: What else they keep in mind when making balance choices.

So you know that they keep them in mind, not that they exclusively make their patches for them right?

Then it would be factually true as well that if they dont state that they are making them 100% for the owl and the top that the rest, maybe 10% of the patches are for the bottom, if 90% is for the top

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Right but as long as this is all I know that they keep in mind, assuming that they keep anything else in mind is false.

Probability over possibility

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No that is just a fancy way of saying we should assume and I already made it clear, assumptions are not valid unless you have a way to substantiate them. Sorry

No, im not telling you to assume anything, im telling you to put the probability of a situation over a possibility of another situation

For example if a hurricane flew through a small village, or through a huge city.

The probability is that the hurricane would cost more lives and property damage in the huge city rather than in the small village, but the possibility is that it would be the other way round.

Putting probability over a smaller possibility is the right thing to do in most cases

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Thanks god they no care about noobs

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Probability is mathematical. What formula did you use to calculate the probability of them keeping low ranks in mind as opposed to what flavour donut Geoff had for breakfast?

Probability isnt necessarily an incredibly complex thing to crack, just thinking logically about what the the possibilities are between 2 different things and you should be able to crack it.

I would say that its more probable that the rest of the patch is for lower ranks, while not necessarily for maybe the bottom 500 people, but for lower than GM rather than the succulent breakfast of our beloved Geoff.

If youd have to try to calculate every single situation you come across youll spend more time calculating things than living, since life is a constant of probabilities and possibilities.

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See you just assumed Geoff is beloved. We are going back to how wrong you are to make assumptions and run with them, stating them as if they are facts

Geoff is beloved to me and i know for a fact another person who he is beloved to, so it is not an assumption but a fact

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You said our. It was an assumption that you stated as a fact. I know more people that hate him and you are the first person I met that didn’t so… you will not make an (reducted) out of me with your assumptions

I said our, you are assuming i meant you and me with “our” but infact i did not, i know of people who do not hate him, and some who he is beloved to, and i was refrencing them

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For our to be justified in use somebody besides you has to be present who also falls under that category. I see nobody besides you so in fact it was then your improper use of the word “our” that lead to this. Just one of the many pitfalls of speaking without thinking things through and using proper facts.

Nope, that’s why they keep patching it for the GM’s trying to satisfy them.

During doubleshield this was what ladder looked like overall

https://i.imgur.com/ugilR01.jpg

This was Diamond

https://i.imgur.com/M3JhiIX.jpg

This was master

https://i.imgur.com/uYbfFtz.jpg

This was grandmaster

https://i.imgur.com/lrxSXyZ.jpg

Now, who were the shield nerfs for?


Then in January a month after the shield nerfs. Two tanks were already pulling far ahead from the rest and it wasn’t Orisa/Sigma

This was overall

https://i.imgur.com/FntGBqg.jpg

This was Diamond

https://i.imgur.com/naPcFyL.jpg

This was Master

https://i.imgur.com/8qBKzy1.jpg

This was Grandmaster

https://i.imgur.com/5zcwwtq.jpg

Who we’re the second batch of Orisa nerfs for?


Right now this is ladder

Overall

https://i.imgur.com/d2Y36OX.jpg

Diamond

https://i.imgur.com/doyeeSs.jpg

Master

https://i.imgur.com/3wtb2yQ.jpg

GrandMaster

https://i.imgur.com/A5Sr73a.jpg

Who were the experimental patches for?


In each of these, neither Orisa nor Sigma were so far ahead that they were getting mirror matched by the playerbase. And yet they were the ones that kept getting nerfed. All it did was solidify Reinhard and Zarya for the rest of us while they kept nerfing them at GM.

So far, their balance patches are certainly for GM, while the rest of ladder got more and more locked to Rein/Zar.

You do not have to see someone for me to have someone here, you cannot assume that i am alone as of right now

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Unless you clarify that you are with someone your use of the word “our” is improper as there is no way to determine who is encapsulated in the word “our”. But it’s ok, I forgive you for purposefully making misleading posts to fuel an agenda.

Not necessarily, as it could be the clarification to me not being alone.

But thats besides the point, we have sidetracked so far from the actual post i can almost see the mercy rework threads on the other side

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To quote Jeff directly from a week ago:

“we listen to everyone’s feedback. it’s all important. when it comes to balance, we primarily balance the game around owl, gm/masters”

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It’s balanced around a hero’s max potential, cuz what else would it be balanced around X) (and who plays heroes at their max potential? - not gold players)

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