Bro. If you play on EU Servers, I challenge you to a duel.
I challenge YOU to a Scrim.
If you organize one, Iām in. As a solo player, Iāll accept any contrived team you see fit to prove your point. At least the MATCHMAKER wouldnāt manipulate the outcome, right
Whereby a duel, for direct skill comparison, is clearly more purposeful and less time-consuming.
Since I am only a Gold/Plat player, a duel is a good proof to see if someone should really be higher than Bronze or Silver.
Uhā¦
Fake it til you make it, right?
Great, Iām organising them on my discord.
Hulk#7881
A one versus one doesnāt prove much because this is a team game
Actually a scrim doesnāt prove your PERSONAL skill at all. Winning and losing is a 100% team effort. Itās easy to cherrypick team mates to carry you How do you manage to ābalanceā out the teams, so that itās YOUR personal skill that decides defeat or victory? How would you make sure that I am not handicapped by much worse players that you have intentionally placed in my team?
The most accurate (mechanical) skill test would be a 1on1, maybe even with mirrored heroes. You chose heroes for one round, I for round 2 and so on. Two heroes per role should answer at least mechanical questions.
Edit: The more I think about it, the more impossible it seems, especially through scrims, to verify oneās skill.
A scrim is absolutely not the normal ladder experience, because the teams are NOT put together by the matchmaker. Therefore something completely different would be checked.
We can balance the teams
Or for example Iām captain and your captain and we pick one by one. Or we play with given teams and after one game we swap each other onto each otherās teams and play another game. So we can see who is the difference maker
Thereās no such thing as personal skill, this is a team game. Your personal skill IS your ability to work with a team
A one versus one purely tests mechanical skills and maybe knowledge of the map which are different from the maps that are in normal gameplay
Right itās not normal ladder experience because itās not rigged
You are funny.
I literally donāt know anybody from the lobby so itās just guessing from my side
Correct, itās rigged by you
Okay so we play one game with a given team and then we swap each other around for the next game and keep repeating that for a few games
Alternative: you bring your own team I donāt mind
Itās unethical because itās literally the concept of āIf I am more powerful than you, I can do whatever I want to you.ā Because there is literally almost nothing worse than being at the complete and total mercy of something or someone that sees you merely as a resource to be consumed, we as a species have tried and mostly succeeded at eradicating this behavior (forced slavery, r**e, war crimes, extreme forms of cruelty, and countless other things people have done to others) because itās unthinkably horrible and utterly unethical. Yet treating billions of other species as a resource, because weāre more powerful than they are just because they canāt stop it is ok? Animals do not want to be raised to be eaten, and they do not want to suffer, and they do not want to be eaten. But we visit that upon them because we are more powerful. I cannot think of anything more cruel than raising billions of animals in torturous conditions to be slaughtered and eaten.
Itās dangerous because the livestock trade is creating horrible outcomes for our planet and its sustainability, and itās an incredibly inefficient use of precious non-renewable resources. Also there are of course many maladies and sicknesses tied to the way we process and eat meat.
And itās stupid because there are alternatives.
We are talking about the matchmaker here, right. And people believing that they are being āheld backā. What does your scrim actually prove in this regard, when you disconnect the test from the actual problem?
The question was: Does a bronze player deserve to play much higher, regardless of his/her MMR/SR?
My test strategy would be to test his/her mechanical capabilities first, as they are crucial to further insights.
Your approach would literally NOT answer that question.
My test strategy would be to test his/her mechanical capabilities first, as they are crucial to further insights.
Your test is bad because mechanical skills are like a very small fraction of overwatch skillsā¦
They funniest test would actually be a scrim with
Cuthbert, Ethernyet, Rigged/Receipts, HULK, BrightTitan and Bro
Vs.
Basil, Suirrel, rhainsict, Abdullah9000, Octo24 and maybe Romulus.
I would donate 20 EUR to charity project to witness that tournament.
You are of course making a lot of assumptions here, and thats fine as I really donāt want to argue this subject here. But I have to say, your proclamations are just plain out of control.
P.S. Not saying your points are invalid. Thereās a reason indigenous cultures around the world pretty much all share the concept of balance (within nature). And Iād say centering a meal around meat is definitely NOT how they practiced foraging.
Iād actually come out of retirement for that game.
I LITERALLY believe that this would be BIGGER than the last OWL tournament at least for this forum.
COMMUNITY BRAWL 2022
The Raging Riggers VS. The Git Gut Gladiators
I would design logos for both teams, sell merchandise and give the profits to child cancer stuff.
Omegalulā¦
Problem is, you put 3 DPS players on one team. If I was going to recruit from the āgit gudā squad, or forum mafia, whatever they;re calling us these days, Iād pick another support player so the other two can DPS and Iāll OT. Or vice versaā¦
The Raging Riggers VS. The Git Gut Gladiators
I LOVE IT!!
1000000/1000000
I would totally donate money to any charity if this happened. Hell, Iād even donate a small sum to Riggedās band of hardworking lawyers.