People seem to be forgetting that support heroes are in fact support heroes and not dps heroes. Brig should not be getting a pass for countering Tracer and Genji, Zen should not be able to one shot in any circumstance, Moira should not have a lock-on which has a 20 metre range (yes, really).
Basically the point of this thread is that support heroes do far too much damage considering their category, yes they should be able to defend themselves in a pinch, but they should not be able to win a 1v1 against a full health dps hero, that’s just poor game design.
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I beat Tracers in a 1v1 as Mercy all the time!
W-wait no MY PISTOL DON’T TAKE IT AWAY!
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No, I agree. Or at least no support hero should have favorable matchups against DPS. DPS are all about fighting, it’s all they have. They need to be better at it, or they don’t have any role in the game.
Surviving or getting away is different. They don’t have to be free kills. And outskilling a DPS is fine. Or punishing one that plays poorly. But not just straight one on one duels.
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Also it doesn’t help that Hanzo literally outshines EVERY OTHER DPS
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I forgot, genji and tracer arent meant to have counters, whats the point of playing a class if its an instant free kill, there isn’t. Welp im a dps main now, always wanted to onetrick widow
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This made me chuckle, have a like ![:heart:](https://d74zh8edaijub.cloudfront.net/en/overwatch/images/emoji/twitter/heart.png?v=5" ":heart:")
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Have you tried Doomfist? You’ll have all supports complaining about you. Brigitte would be an EZ target and Moira will be nothing to you.
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Wait hold the phone, since when have supports been free kills for dps?
I don’t remember that being in the Overwatch rule book!
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Supports should not counter a couple of heroes specifically designed to counter supports.
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Have you never played Moira? You have to aim with her and she does piss poor damage.
Brigitte can 1v1 bad DPS players, and support =/= weak.
Zen is fine.
You’re honestly just bad at this game and want the characters you have trouble dealing with nerfed, just like everyone else complaining about Brigitte.
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Brigitte is a hybrid Support/Tank (leaning tank), Zen is a hybrid Support/DPS (leaning DPS), Ana is a hybrid Support/DPS (leaning support), Moira is a hybrid Support/DPS (leaning support), Lucio is a hybrid Support/DPS (leaning support).
Mercy is a pure support, and she does not fight enemies she runs away from them.
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I 1v1 supports frequently and win.
If I get killed, that’s my own fault.
If you want to remove their ability to do that, then you are inherently asking to turn them into trash based on your own frustrations. And that’s suboptimal.
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Yes, I’ve played Moira. The thing is, you really don’t have to aim with her as it locks-on to the enemy. I rarely have trouble with Zen, it’s just that I’ve played him more than any other hero and sometimes I got unfair kills that no support should be able to get in an actually balanced game
Ahahahahaha Dps characters have the power to do immense damage. You’re complaining because Moira can damage you? Moira can’t headshot. The only thing she needs more than anything is time in order to kill anything. A Soldier: 76 needs 1 second to kill a 200 health hero.
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Did you forget the fact that Brigitte is a Support/Tank?
Do you 1v1 Dvas too? Lol
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If i clap you when i’m Ana, then that’s on you.
She has plenty of weaknesses you can exploit.
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Supports can win 1vs1all they want. The difference between them and a real dps is that the real dps has very consistent high damage overall in the match (or some kind of utility to make up for lower dmg).
Whereas supp dmg is either too slow or too situational/infrequent to compete with real dps. That is what matters, not their 1vs1 potential.
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