I have frequently 1v1’d a D.va as brig and won every single time, either that’s poor game design or the enemy D.va sucked
I’m not talking about 1v1ing Dva as Brig.
I’m talking about 1v1ing a tank as a DPS.
You are usually spinning your wheels doing that. Brigitte, a Support/Tank is no exception.
Also Brig counters D.va (a dive hero) so there’s nothing wrong with the game design.
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Moira does not have a lockon. The graphical effect does latch onto the center of a target but the hitbox is simply a large single target beam.
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How to 1v1 D.Va as Brigitte:
- Bash
- Hold shield up to take her missiles
- A + D spam while holding W + M1
- Demeched
- Combo
- Profit
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D.Va had every chance to retreat. But she over commited and died because of it.
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D.va has no business fighting Brigitte because her kit is literally weak to Brig.
The only thing Dva can do is use Micro Missiles on her shield from a distance, and that does nothing by itself.
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Exactly.
Even Micro missiles don’t do much to her shield.
A support shouldn’t be able to 1v1 a tank like Brigitte can.
This is coming from a support main. I’m not saying that a support shouldn’t be able to win against a tank, but a support shouldn’t downright overwhelm a tank.
This completely invalidates the existence of the DPS heroes, and is exactly why Brigitte is played in a DPS slot.
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The reason why Brigitte can do this is because she’s also a tank so yes she can be put in a DPS slot because she functions just like an offtank.
She isn’t a pure support. If anything move her to the tank category.
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She’s a mixture of supp/dps/tank
Why does she also need damage?
I was going to make a post about how butthurt you are that a support killed you but I don’t want to get banned. Yes, Brig is supposed to kill flankers. yes it is healthy for the game. no, you are absolutely wrong about everything. brig will continue to kill you as long as you continue being bad at the game.
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I think I translated this:
Good game design is a certain class being defenseless to another class in all scenarios.
Cuz nothing says play these heroes like being sitting ducks. They have limited ability to beat certain DPS. Yes, Moira can beat a Tracer/Genji but good luck 1v1ing tanks or even a Junkrat. DPS have ways to beat other characters… just like other characters have that. It sounds like you want DPS to have kiddy bumpers so they can only hit strikes cuz gutterballs are bad.
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The only thing DPS about Brigitte is her combo. Other than that its her swinging a flail around.
Shield Bash is the most problematic issue with her kit but other than that she functions just like how Blizz wanted her to
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She has a 600hp shield and 250 hp (of which 50 is armor) And self healing.
She does not need damage.
She’s meant to be a support/tank hybrid.
She’s not meant to be a dps/tank/support hybrid.
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Basically what OP is saying is: "Arbitrary labels used to categorize heroes based on a presumed specialized function, rather than the hero’s practical application, should take precedence over the actual role for which that hero was designed. Therefore, if you fall into the category “Support”, you should have exactly zero function beyond supporting your team, and every hero therein should be a variety of the exact same role with minimal variance. At no point in time should a Lucio be able to boop you off the edge of the map, nor should Brigitte provide any level of CC, nor should Moira be able to deal sustainable damage, no matter how low the output actually is. Zenyatta shouldn’t be able to deal damage, and Ana shouldn’t be able to snipe enemies between supporting healers. They should be relegated to healing and boosting their teammates, and nothing more.
Furthermore, there is certainly nothing on my part that I am doing wrong by focusing on such arbitrary labels, as the hero’s kit and design is completely irrelevant in this conversation so far as I am concerned. A hero with armor who is especially powerful in close-quartered combat is problematic, not the fact I tried 1v1 an ARMORED hero with a gun that does a maximum of 22 damage, divided between 11, 2-damage rounds. That is simply poor game design, and not poor decision-making on my part."
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So I guess it is time to nerf Reinhardt, Winston, Zarya, Roadhog, Orisa, Hammond, and D.Va.
After all, they do damage and they are tanks.
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It seems people are assuming that I play dps, actually I main support and I made this thread out of my own experiences as the heroes I mentioned.
How is she supposed to support or tank if all she can do is hold a shield up to her face???
Her entire existence is to punish dive characters. Her only damage is in a combo that puts her entire kit on cooldown.
What are you talking about???
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Reinhardt doesn’t heal his team nor does he hand out 100 armor.
Reinhardt isn’t pulling off 190 damage stun combo’s left and right.
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Reinhardt does provide a 2000 HP barrier and a long range fast charging AoE stun ultimate.
And Reinhardt can pull off 250 damage combos using the same logic behind the Brigitte 190 damage combo.
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