Support Balancing Problems

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Just to clarify. I don’t expect any support changes any time soon. Especially with this virus going around, but I would like to offer some constructive criticism about the support balancing in this game.

Lets start off with main supports.

Ana

Ana is in the best spot she’s ever been, and there is really no reason to touch her right now. She is very fun, very engaging, and has a nice skill ceiling.

Baptiste

My problem with Baptiste is he can do little bits of healing, and little bits of damage, but I feel he doesn’t do one as well as he needs to. I do think his immortalality field is the most balanced part of his kit, and I also don’t think that his regenerative burst needs any changes, and on top of that he has a ult that is flexible while also being a high skill ult to get use out of. I think all Bap needs is maybe a small nerf to damage, and a small buff to his healing/fire rate for secondary fire.

Moira

My friend describes Moira as a low skill hero with mediocre results. She is definitely not the worst support, but I don’t think she was really well designed. I constantly see brought up that she has no utility. Which I agree with. I also get the argument that her utility is her heals, which isn’t the case if Ana is out healing her, or they say that her utility is her damage, which also can’t be true when she has some of the lowest DPS in the game. I’d argue that she needs a rework. Even something small like her damage orb becomes a slowing orb or something. Lucio’s very strong, and this might be a good counter. This does add to the CC problem, but its just a suggestion, and not something I would personally go with. She’s very strong, but needs something.

Lets move to off supports.

Lucio

Lucio is very strong right now, but I don’t think that means we should nerf him. He could use a bit of something to make him a bit weak, but I don’t think there is much you could do to him without nerfing him Into the ground.

Brigette

I think Brig is in the best spot she has ever been in. I do think her largest problem is the lack of a good defensive ult. Rally usually ends up being used offensively. At least that’s how I use rally. I think Rally could have the armor produce faster to the point where Brig is unkillable like it used to be. I don’t think this would make her too strong to be honest, but I’m not sure it would help her be more defensive. That’s not something I could test.

Zenyatta

Zen could work. I think if anything he needs a buff to his heals, and a nerf to his discord. Even without the heals discord is a very strong ability, but I think if they gave Zen more heals discord would have to be nerfed. I think his healing output should be increased to 40-50 heals per second, and his discord damage amplify be reduced from 30% to maybe about 15-20%.

Mercy

Mercy is in an interesting case. Like Moira she’s an easy hero with mediocre results, but with an ability like Rez she can easily get out of hand like we’ve seen during the moth meta. I think her heals need to go back to 60 heals per second, and I think thats all she really needs, but honestly wouldn’t be against another rework. Something that makes her a bit higher skilled, and I think we could definitely ditch Rez. I would like a new ability that is similar the first version of Rez, but instead of bringing her allies back to life, she instantly heals like 100 health or something. That might be a bit broken, but it’s just a suggestion. One more thing about a Mercy rework would be reworking her ultimate. I’ve seen plenty of Mercy mains say that Mercy’s ult is not impactful.

These are just some suggestions I have to balance out the supports. Some of these might be broken, but I still don’t balance the game, and it would be very helpful for the game, and for all the support mains out there.

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Moira is the most picked support in comp. She doesn’t need a rework. And they already said they won’t rework heroes anymore.

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ALl i mostly read was make the heroes are that easy to use higher skill sealing <.>
Moria was more than fine before all the nerfs. She is still good now, but the nerfs have shown to be too much. She never needed a nerf on her healing… she already can’t heal through shields, needs to be near her team to heal them and has to balance her resources. One HUGE reasons we prob see a lot of dps moria, becuse they CAN’T balance their resources.

if she uses DPS orb, she loses a lot of sustain
She is super well rounded, people just Qqed cuze of her soft like primary and began to ruin her.

Mercy is in a kind of bad place imo. She is a main support by design, she should have one of the highest single target healing in the game. Now she feels like her healing is not good enough unless she ulties. IMO, Rez should of stayed as an ultimate and her flying should have been an ability. She was fine before the reworks, this was not needed imo, but its done unfortunately.

Zen is behinde in times. Like symmetra sup, overwatch kept changing, evolving and improving. While a lot of characters stayed stagnant or werent leveled up the right way. Poor decisions are still being made today… just look at sym 3.0… worse move ever

Brig its okish, her kit just fights herself. Still doesn’t make sense and its not even being looked at.
Ana is Ok
Bap i think it is fne as well… just boring and generic.

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no please no. I hate the idea of buffing supports just by making them heal more. thats lame. I like zen because hes the low sustain, high damage support and I would be glad if he remained that way even if it meant he would be a second tier pick at best.

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I agree with this. Zen is easily probably my favorite character in the game, but it sucks when I can’t play him because if I do I’m “throwing”. More heals is an option, but completely agree with you. That was my mistake.

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True Moira is just hated on because she can be annoying lmao.

I don’t think alot of players understand Mercy was honestly lowkey in a better spot before the rework than after, where she is having a identity crisis. At least before she knew what she was suppose to be.

Zen is good, but needs some type of changes to get him so help, he still is good in the right hands. The game sadly just doesn’t really go in his favor anymore. Also sym 2.0 could have worked as a support IMO they just needed to add a way she could heal with turrets and played with the shield idea more, but you know :roll_eyes:

I think brig is in a very good spot compared to launch, jfc

Probably the most balanced, maybe nade needs a tune down

Yeah, maybe a few tweaks to his healing and primary fire

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the secret to a good moira is to do dps and healing at all times and knowing when to prioritize one of them. that’s all that there is to her technically, but so many people can’t do it. we all can’t forget that an owl player failed at moira and people laughed about custa for it.

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Cuze it simple at first glance, but not everyone is good at balancing their resources.

Which can show the difference between a good support and a bad. I usually am very very good at her resource management. Even with the shield spams stopping me at times. only time i fail is due to a very heavy team…

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I know the feeling. moira can help outplaying some disfunctions in your team, but at a certain point it’s over.

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i think ana is fine – positioning is huge and shields can be a pain a lot of the times. Only thing that annoys me is the anti heal but thats just personal lol.

Brigde is way better than before, but i still feel they need to fix her design a tad bit more.

I’ve been making a ton of sym reworks to showcasing that she could of been a great support/healer. I make a lot of concepts just to prove it. This line shows one and a bunch of other links of concepts i made. Feel free to look, comment, share, etc.

Agreed on moria and mercy butterfly.

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I wouldn’t touch wnt supports damage, especially not Baptiste. It doesn’t feel good in a FPS when you’re firing into an enemy and you’re hitting your shots but the enemy only needs a few and your dead.