Hanzo and Widow are FINE. They’ve been in the game for almost 10 years and you’ve all had nearly 10 years to adjust to them.
Most of the issues we are having with certain characters now is the result of taking away one tank.
Do you remember OW1 where you could run Monkey DVA and immediately make widow’s life terrible?
Where one pick didn’t immediately change the outcome of a match.
Why are we complaining about characters who have either been left behind from the format switch or severely more powerful because of two less players in the match when we should be complaining about the core issue
We shouldn’t be trying to dumpster two of the most iconic characters in the game. Hanzo and Widow don’t need reworks… They just need to be placed back in the format they were CREATED for.
As much as they are annoying to be on the receiving end of, they are a necessary evil.
One-shots are the only true counter to excessive healing. Plus the game has 41 heroes but only two of them can actually one shot so its not like it is a rampant problem.
Edit:
There are actual four heroes in the game that can one-shot if you count Cassidy and Reinhardt as well.
Yeah, Widow and Hanzo got zero complaints in OW1, good point.
Yes, it was glorious.
Cause they were always bad and you deserve the complaints now, more than ever?
Who arguably don’t fit in this hero shooter format. Maybe if the maps were different, but the devs were too lazy to fix them back then, and crawl at fixing them now.
idk, I haven’t really had that much trouble with any hanzos yet, and I know what his “identity” is supposed to be, but it was nice to fight in mid-range with a hanzo and not have to be overly cautious in order to avoid his 250 Damage potential.
He still dealt 240 damage, so you still had to be careful to avoid even being scratched before engaging, lest you be put under that breakpoint. Now trying to engage him is just a gamble of “will he hit the OHKO before I KO him?”.
People call Widow uninteractive, but the way you interact with Widow is by taking routes and positions that don’t give her los. I think 250 Headshot Hanzo is less interactive, because Hanzo is in the same positions as other midrange characters so you’re drawn in to more direct confrontations.
Every other hero shooter has a sniper that can delete from long range. So it clearly isn’t that big of a problem if no other Dev said “wait a minute”
Only two heroes can one shot like this and they both require the most mechanical skill in the game.
Not only that but they also don’t provide any value if they aren’t hitting their shots. A Widow and Hanzo who can’t secure kills is throwing the game unlike other characters who provide insane value just by existing.
Wasn’t widow literally seeing play during the first season of OWL when dive was meta?? I could be wrong.
Regardless… widow was a pain to deal with in ow1 as well? lmao. Also this idea of “lol just adjust” is stupid. There is no adjusting for a hero who has the capability to one shot 4/5 members of the enemy team in 5 seconds, from an uncontestable range if they choose to do so.