Spilo: sombra rework needs work

Maybe knock off cd if not a full reset. Just think that alot of my time gets wasted walking towards the people I need to engage with. Id like to be able to maintain midfight pressure

Don’t worry, mid season patch comes with 20% buff on skill

I’d be down for it but I’m biased :sweat_smile: I think some way to reset the cooldown would be cool and a lot of fun. But I honestly love that kind of thing.

She’s vicious against any isolated targets, especially snipers who don’t react fast enough to OHK her, and supports generally speaking.

Among non-tanks, the biggest threats to her even while isolated imo (some you need to switch up your approach) are Mei, S76, Torb and Sym if only because of their turrets, Genji, Tracer, Illari, Brig, Moira, Kiriko, LW, and Bap. Some can melt her at about the same speed, some are just hard to hit, the rest either delay/ deny her or have self heals and/ or cleanse.

Moira for example, I either shoot her to bait out Fade, then virus and hack if I have time, or I hit her with Virus, hack her, then as soon as I see Fade, I use TL and attack her on my next good opportunity, which will likely include Virus. S76, basically the same scenario.

Easy characters she’s strong against like Zen or Ashe, I don’t even bother hacking, I just hit them with Virus and unload enough for Virus to finish them unless I have to worry about enemy healing (I play a lot of FFA). Bastion? Hack, Virus, then unload. It’s rare one will kill me before I can kill them or escape.

The most I’d do to Sombra is have Hack and EMP halt enemy cooldowns for the lockout duration to basically add an extra second or two or have EMP buff the damage or reset the duration on Virus if applied beforehand.

I think it’s smarter to wait for support nerfs first.

But just as Blizzard brings out balance patches, I can even imagine that they nerf support in their survivability and at the same time buff sombra…

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While I agree she needs buffs, I think she’s fine as is. I’ve been getting top damage with her and top kills. She feels nice to play as and against. Virus is a bit busted, but it’s her only burst damage.

I think toning down the ult cost would help. They nerfed it too much to get her out of OWL’s meta.

Probably not nerfing their survivability, but making more opportunities to kill them or who they’re healing. Like if Mercy’s self heal while healing her teammates didn’t kick in until her hp goes down too much (idk if it already does), or if they made it so healing someone too much or too long within certain time frame reduced how much healing they got for a time, like if LW healed the same target 5 times in a row, his healing dropped from 75 to 55. Maybe nerf their passive to only heal a percentage of the health they lost.

There’s several options.

i dont even know if id say she needs buff, she just needs power to be shifted around so shes less able to spawn camp people but is a lil better in the actual team fight.

For the 7492th time, not personally liking a hero’s design doesnt mean its a systemic design issue with the hero.

Ive always wanted a damage debuff ability, maybe virus would b a good choice for applying it

Some thing like targets affected by virus have their damage output reduced by 10 or 15%

This would allow her dot have an upside to it and allow more strategy in applying it

Who said anything about liking/not liking?

It’s a fact that one launch requires some tuning…and the other needed how much just to function? He was the very definition of hot garbage when he launched (who’s arguing that?)

I find it pretty good at making sure Mercy sticks around to be killed. So there is that. If I had better aim, I would be able to hose her on her flight out, but I don’t, so I find hack useful there.

Lucio’s also hate the hack, and interrupting currently running non ult abilities it pretty great.

I also… (and this IS a guilty pleasure of mine) love to hack Mei’s just as the team pushes through a choke :)… Oh? you were going to split the team by walling them off? how is that going for you?

Yeah hack is nothing like the “you will use this all the time” ability it used to be, but it is still fun.

What I want to see changed:

-DRASTICALLY reduce the projectile size of Translocator. Like down to a single pixel. The amount of times I go to chuck it through a window or door and it clunks on the frame or some weird geometry 2 feet above and behind me in maddening… and if you brick a TL throw you are just dead.

-Get rid of passive stealth, it’s SO gimped currently. If that isn’t possible give TL the ability to ‘tap or hold’ when used. Tap functions like current, hold resets cooldown to say 3 seconds. That was you can chose to go into stealth asap or use it for repositioning during the fight without having to immediately shoot/melee awkwardly.

-Literally anything to make EMP decent. It’s crazy to go from the best(with coordination) Ult in game in OW1, to mediocre in OW2, to hot garbage currently.

It’s hilarious, and oh so predictable to me, that everyone wanted her kit gutted and power put into a projectile “skill shot”, so they nerf everything and do that, and people are still whining about Hack and Virus.

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I mean I like your other two and I agree with those, but this one isn’t gonna happen. They’re setting their flag in perma stealth and like the “follow the translocator and guess where she is” mini game. And I’ve had some fun moments with it admittedly

emp spreads virus to anyone within 10 yards of an emp’d target at half value
boom
emp is now strong and threatening and no longer a pure utility ultimate

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The only use I have for it is to allow me to consistently spawn camp baptiste…but how often is a bap going to die in the first place?

sometimes when i’m on bap, ill sneeze irl and fling my mouse off my mousemat
nearly die every time
one day itll get me killed

I’m not asking for a TL that goes into stealth quicker, I want a way to use TL without triggering stealth without having to immediately melee/shoot to reset it. Basically I want an additional way to chuck TL that doesn’t put you into stealth.

LOL so true. Bap and Dva are pretty much the only characters I hack then Virus.

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Many wanted hack to be a skill shot. Not give another ability along it.

The birds eye view is that she ain’t getting buffed without some compensation nerfs and Sombra mains should be a lot more weary of those.