Trust me, the detection radius makes it almost to hard to get on a target to kill, and makes you stay in stealth longer trying to get a better opportunity, knowing youll die if u get detected, as they know where you are going as soon as you are detected.
Her combat is fine. She can pretty much kill most of the roster 1v1, especially other dps heros. One is roadhog, she can melt him in a 1v1. Reindheart is easy.
(But this is not a 1v1 game)
Sure, I understand that. But Sombra style is try and force 1v1s whenever possible, as she is fast to get in there and fight her target before the others react. otherwise, shes gone.
If you increase her DPS to much (and not much more, if it really is needed. Like i said, she can already melt a roadhog) they will nerf her in some other way, possibly a smaller gun magazine.
With her style, I rather have that huge gun magazine, because reloading would hurt the little time shes got when she ambushes.
I counted 11 nerfs if weâre gonna be honest here:
Right now hereâs the list:
Buffs:
- Infinite Translocator uptime
- Infinite stealth (if youâre not shot)
Nerfs:
- Loud as all get out translocator at the same range as live translocator can be heard at
- Translocator can be destroyed
- Translocator can be heard up to 20 meters
- Translocator is targetable by turrets once on the ground (Possibly Moiraâs ball, depending on how itâs coded)
- Can no longer contest while stealthed
- Can no longer jump certain gaps while stealthed
- Slower while stealthed by 33% (+75% --> +50% speed boost)
- Double stealth detection range (2 -->4 meters)
- When coming to a translocator, the light turns from green to red, warning enemies youâre on your way
- When coming out of translocator, you make a big bright light radiate from you saying to everyone âIâM HERE NOW PLEASE SHOOT ME BECAUSE IâM DEFENSELESS!â
- Translocator gets instantly destoryed by almost all projectiles because almost everything does over 5 damage every pellet/bullet/tick of energy.
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Indeed. But repeat after me:
THE REWORK IS A SUCCESS.
No u.
Repeat after me:
THIS IS A BUFF
Damn⌠I didnât know about the light on the translocator.
Another stealth nerf I had no idea about⌠I really need to stop reading these Sombra posts, theyâre so depressing.
IKR. Itâs just sad how theyâre ruining what Sombra is and was.
Players say âYou should just adaptâ but to what? Thereâs no telling what sheâs even supposed to be? According to Blizzard sheâs a scout. According to pros, sheâs a flanker/disruptor. According to the wiki/other sources, sheâs a flanker/disruptor. But she canât flank because everything she does is loud or bright and sheâs easily detected. Sheâs literally only going to be picked so she can see the enemy teamâs hero selection before they show up on the menu.
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Yeah, Iâm pretty convinced that someone on the design team just hates her. I mean itâs utterly baffling to me why a hero thatâs way on the bottom of pick and winrate canât just get a straight up buff. Instead literally every buff she gets is in exchange for nerfs.
- Lower the spread on the SMG, but now your EMP wonât charge as fast.
- Hack happens faster but now itâs far easier to break and also has a 2 second cooldown on a failure.
- Translocator is infinite, but now itâs noisy, destructible and gives away when youâre using it.
- Cloak is infinite, but you get double the detection radius, move slower and canât contest.
Literally every single Sombra buff has to come with strings attached. The only explanation is that Blizzard just wants her to suck. The only role they want for her is in the trash. I think they will be happy with her only picked to scout the other team early on, since then they can say âWell she was used in OWLâ and the Sombra haters can pretend like sheâs okay.
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Please at this point just give me back February Sombra.
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IMO, if youâre picking Sombra, youâre sacrificing a lot of straight up damage for speculative tomfoolery and shenanigans. So that means the tomfoolery and shenanigans she can provide BETTER be worth an equal amount if not more than the loss of the firepower if she can pull it off.
I donât think she offers that right now.
If youâre giving up constant DPS for the potential to shut down other players, then this ability needs to happen often and with ease, otherwise youâre better off with literally any other DPS shooting a constant flow of damage into the enemy,
Imagine the time spent that Sombra isnât hurling bullets so she can set up to shut down an enemy to 1v1 and MAYBE get a kill. The definite advantage you give up of constant DPS is not in any way made up by her POSSIBLE utility. At all.
You want to make Sombra fair based on the tradeoff for constant DPS? Here we goâŚ
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Instant hack. 5 second cooldown. Hack gives her 50 armor.
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Perma invis, 2 meter detect range.
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1 sec cooldown on the translocator. Reduce its visibility so itâs not glaringly obvious where itâs at.
Thatâs a start to test the waters.
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This is why weâre looked at as a joke.
Players make suggestions like this that are obviously OP but think âItâs a startâ and that the change is fine when itâs blatently OP.
Those changes are insanely OPâŚ
If you think an instant hack is ridiculous considering the tradeoff of her not hurling a stream of damage into the fight like every other DPS so she can instead run off in a flank attempt to MAYBE get a kill is somehow overboard then I feel for you.
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Every time, every single time. Every. Single. Time. Every time Sombra is buffed, she gets two nerfs to accompany it. They say they do it because âitâs really unfun to play against,â when guess what, THATâS THE ENTIRE GORRAM POINT!!! The point of Sombra is that she stacks the deck against you, making it so you canât use abilities and making it harder to fight back! Of course itâs not supposed to be fun to fight against! Now though? The only thing thatâs not fun is playing Sombra. Blizzard are content to ruin her entire kit, mire it in bugs and pointless reworks that just make her worse to use and theyâre content to tell us to go frak ourselves.
Unrelated side note, I need to look up more TV swear words.
Which, spoiler alert, is pretty much the only thing the pros use her for.
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People already know that hack is oppressive. It has a timer so it can be countered. Youâre suggesting to decrease the cooldown and the time it takes for a successful hack to go through and you think itâs not OP?
Please, stop giving balance suggestions.
Itâs about to be the only thing sheâs picked for at all at the moment. The pros donât keep it to just that. Even Fitzy likes her for her enabling/disabling properties with EMP and hack.
Iâve never understood that argument. Every hero is unfun to play against. You think I like getting one shot by Hanzo, Widow, or Doomfist? Or being frozen by Mei? Or getting stuck in a JR trap? Or getting charged into a wall by Rein? Or when I get mowed down by the cleverly positioned Bastion? Or when the Mercy is able to heal up the target Iâm shooting and canât kill them? EtcâŚ
People for some reason reserve this special kind of hate for Sombras who can out-position them and get a hack off. Like oh no, being hacked for 6 seconds is somehow worse than death.
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So letâs look at it this way, how much damage do you think Soldier for example can launch into a teamfight in the time that it takes Sombra to stealth around, get a hack off, and try not to get evaporated by everyone around her before she maybe gets a kill, and has to trans away where she will then continue to be of zero use for another 20-30 seconds?
And you think having an instant hack is overboard to make up for what the 76 could add to the team during the same timeframe? To top it off, youâre acting like itâs some kind of instant kill. For heckâs sake dude, itâs a hack, itâs not like youâre preventing the hero from even shooting back at her.
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kinda agree its 10% buff, 90% net nerf
if they insist to keep this way
atleast give it damage cap to stealth before u forced to appear
something like 50 damage should be good, so dva wont just reveal you by shooting randomly
maybe give it slight 50% opacity when u shooting her, and u need to keep shooting until 50 damage to make her compeletely appear
and maybe give translocator more HP like 50 HP
also keep 75% movement speed bonus plzâŚ
Is there such a thing as a character whoâs fun to play against? I mean besides PTR Sombra?
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