Sombra 4 nerfs for NOTHING ! OWL: pickrate

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she s not even the best dps in 222
she had some play in 2cp but she s far to be the best op dps as she was in goats
222 is alredy a nerf for sombra
some pros has predicted sombra to be the heroes who will dominate the meta and have send open request to nerf her
they were wrong, sombra doest dominate this meta

hanzo widow and even mei have higher pickrate

Sombra has been nerf only for owl because in rank she had the worst winrate of all heroes
" no she s op in higher rank"
you mean diamond? negative winrate: 48,64%
master? still negative winrate 48,25

" ho not but in gm she s op"
hmm not at all she has one of the worst winrate 50,22%
grand master is the only rank where sombra doesnt have a negative winrate ( positive by 0.22%)
source: overbuff if you studied some stat and sample in highscool or university you would understand that those number are probably close the the real number of all players

so she has been nerf just for the pros but instead of waiting for 222 they nerfed her before
Sombra had 4 nerf which is just huge!
-ult charge nerf ( all heroes had this nerf but the emp bot is the weakest outside of her ult)

  • hack ability 6s to 5s
    -emp hack 6s to 5s
  • emp cast time increased

WHAT THE FFFFF 4 nerf for the weakest heroes ?!

I mean she kind of feel " opressive" most sombra player are ok with those nerf as long as she have buff to compensat
but where are they ?

fitzyhere one of the best sombra ( reach rank 3) said ptr sombra isnt viable with out buff to compensate

it seems they nerfed sombra because she had seen in owl for just 2 stage (2 and 3) in stage 2 she had a negative winrate

buff suggestion :
make sombra stop talking she does something
she has a voice line when
-she put a translocator
-she use it
-her translocator is destroyed
-cloack
-decloack

hmm she suppose to be a stealth heroes so she dont have to say where she is everytime , the worst part is even if the voiceline doesnt activate when you put a translocator the ennemy team still hear you which is quite confusing if you dont know this bug, player dont understand why ennemy team seems to always know where sombra is

reminder: sombra still had her decloack sound

second buff suggestion : give her back her previous speed : she will come faster and set up her emp faster , the best sombra will make the best use to use every map at their best

with those 2 buff sombra will be renforced in her role of STEALTH heroes who dont talk everytime and disruptor the speed boost while cloacking will make her come back faster to help her team in fights or set up her nerfed emp and her team will not have the impression to be 6vs5 outside of her ult

sombra will have the same damage as now so she will not be a tracer 2.0 but her power of disruption will be greater( I will not mind a lesser spread or higher recoil)

with those 4 nerf sombra for sure in grand master will have a negative winrate ( currently 50.28%)
and she will not be picked in owl

so at this moment we can say sombra sucks everywhere
bronze to gm and in owl

the 4 nerf was way too soon

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Those are very minor slap on the wrist nerfs. She’s also easily the most unfun hero to play against right now and she has gotten nothing but buffs that remove her counterplay “infinite stealth, infinite translocate, shorter cast time, quieter ability lines”.

Hacking someone used to be difficult, you used to have to think of clever angles and use sombras kit to be sneaky and earn the hack. Now it’s so damn fast you basically get it off for free whenever it’s off cooldown. it makes sense it should lose some power for being made easier to apply

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Nerfing the worst hero in the game shouldn’t be done without a very good reason. If their kit is considered annoying, then redesign it.

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wrong she had some nerfs : she cant contest while cloack
she cant charge her ult with healthpack
her speed decreased
her translocator can now be destroyed
and the sound clue was increased just on ptr and then decreased because they realized it was a mistake
most of sombra player werent happy with the rework( which you call buffs , I proved you that she had also nerfs)

now the funny thing is I remember your name
the last time I saw you writting on sombra it was on ptr on this topic " https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/overwatch-ptr-patch-notes-july-31-2019/380125/28
you said"

now give sombra more nerf plz

you just call for other bigger nerf which is kind of crazy
I understand that you will never respond to my argument about winrate or pickrate in owl

obviously you just hate her a lot to ask for other nerf on ptr forum and dont want to balance the game but just want sombra out of the game right?

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The Developers have made no secret of the fact that they just don’t like her.

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Sombra isnt as trash as people make her out to be. Just because your hacks and emps have no followup doesn’t mean sombra is useless. Play any character smartly and 90% people will have a hard time figuring out the solution. But then again we have Mei and brig :grinning:.

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I don’t care at this point… it has always been nerfs for her.

Even when they try to buff her and when they do buff her is with things that make no sense such as permanent invisibility and translocator uptime.

The one time she was strong she was immediately nerfed back.

And at this point:
I’m OK with that

I don’t care about being a throw pick or people sneering at me the entire game, as I enjoy playing the hero regardless, even if she manages very little.

It is in everyone’s detriment that we play Sombra, not just ours, but at least we have fun doing it.

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People need to stop comparing OWL stats to OW ladder lol

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I feel your pain mate
I remember the last rework sombra they said " we dont want sombra to be an emp bot "
and guess what she s still an emp bot if you play sombra dont bother trying to kill 200hp heroes an hacked soldier will have a the advantage on you , just shoot at the tanks until you have your emp

I am on the edge to loose any hope about the dev like

I am just upset that my hundreas of hours on sombra is destroyed because of a silly reason

now the last stage 222 prove that they wrong about sombra beeing op in pros

I play sombra 60% of my game but having those nerf … I[quote=“Rage-22988, post:10, topic:380789”]
but now the passive will reveal all damaged enemies which should help Sombra identify targets in her line of sight to pick off. Overall these changes should make her more effective and less reliant on her ultimate.
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thanks you for the quotes
so they removed the buff and her passive ?

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100% agree with you here, these were their words and that’s why they removed the healthpacks as a source of ult.

And what did she do in her entire existence in OWL?
Farm EMP

What is she known at high levels of play with Jayne even recommending to farm EMP by shooting things from a distance instead of upclose?
Farm EMP

You’re not a dps, you’re an EMP machine and now people should have more time to react to that, because seemingly, everyone was dying to the imminent and almighty EMP - gimme a break!

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Good. She is unhealthy for the game. I agree with Blizzard 100% on these nerfs, they know how bad she is for the game.

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you can enjoy your victory the dev team listen to you sombra hater she was already the hardest heroes to play in ranked and she got 4 nerfs so she s virtually deleted from the game

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I never understood why they tinkered with the time it took to hack then. Its been a common complaint that Sombra hacks way too fast. I have 300 hours and I think its too fast.

I’d rather they allocate that power to other parts of her kit rather than gutting hack length

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yeah they want to nerf sombra hack and they did it but at the same time they dont want a sombra gun buff because you know sombrais a dps whos isnt suppose to kill you know she s a " disruptor" we dont want to make" a tracer 2.0"

so her damage is low because of her utlity kit but they nerf her utlity but buffing her damage?no

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The devs dont want her viable. This is not a balance decision.
This is a “we want to appeal to the i dont like to play against her crowd” decision.

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Yeah I hate not being able to use abilities but I sure love
-flash-fth every time you turn a corner
-Being ones shotted by a random junk bomb
-getting punched into oblivion
-Being hit by a literal rock
-Being charged when you’re no where near Rein
-Reaper healing all the dmg you unload into his head in one shot
-Freeze plus headshot
-The blue screen of death by WidowXPVista whenever im not behind a wall or shield
But yes, hack is the most annoying…

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And don’t forget Widow “you drop dead before you even knew she was there” maker.

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Ugh, don’t you know that hack is an instant death button, and it’s also no-aim? :triumph: /s

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yeah lemme add that XD.

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OH so THATS why my team flames me for picking her despite her having a supposed insta win ability 4head im so clueless sometimes!

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