So long as Hanzo can delete tanks, the meta is going to be unfun

bro, u forgetting his “LMB”? thats the number 1 thing that made him hard before and hard even now…that’s why folks ask hanzo players to switch off him all the time, since they aren’t providing consistent dmg.

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Best mobility in the game? You cant be serious right? Doomfist. Genji. Tracer. Sombra while invis and Hanzo has best mobility? Lmao

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Cough Tracer blink is on 3 second cooldown.

Its not like people ever stop to think before they post…

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They completely succeeded in buffing him. Personally I find the current meta interesting.

htt ps://www.winstonslab.com/customquery/comparePickrates/?dateGreater=2018-05-16&dateSmaller=2018-07-09&dateGreater_2ndF=2018-07-09&compareData=1&teamcompTypes=1&dataset1Name=Last+Patch%3A+May16±+Jul9&dataset1Abbr=%3CJul9&dataset2Name=New+Patch%3A+Jul9%2B&dataset2Abbr=%3EJul9) someone help me link this

is that why in owl, WIdow and dva are still above hanzo on pick rates? Winston is still at 45.5% and those are still the dive tanks being dominate. tracer is still played at close to 30% of the time.

and according to your charts, hanzo is barely up to par w/ pharah in damage and elims. if pharah isn’t nerfed why are we nerfing hanzo? your own data contradicts your theory that hanzo is op. on the contrary, he is only performing up to par w/ rest of the dps. you are making it sound like hanzo is over achieving by a mile. look at your own data? 25.16 elim/g is between pharah and soldier, dmg / g is 16,650 which is only slightly above pharah by 3% and under junkrat by about 3% which looks very healthy numbers. his numbers are definitely high compared to his prebuff state. but nowhere shows that he is op like dva or mercy where they have stats that is way above other characters.

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No.

Why would you want to nerf a skillful aspect about him ? I agree that he’s too strong currently ,but removing crits from SA is NOT the way to nerf him.

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Adjust cooldown to 6 seconds for removing headshot from storm arrow.

Uhhh they’ve been playing with the older Hanzo until just recently. Up until the playoffs, which started on July 11th, they used the old Hanzo with scatter.

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that chart includes the pickrate from june 9 on. which are the yellow bars

And do you see how it massively increased. As in, Hanzo is being picked far more often at a rate of 5 times more.

which means his buffs are good, but widow still out shines him by 20%. tracer is still being played at a very healthy rate. Hanzo actually forced less zen because Zen is too easy being 1 shotted.

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Most Owl players did not play Hanzo because he wasn’t very good for a long time and now he’s suddenly god-tier. And even then, he has had a 5 time increase in pick rate.

And if you like data, Hanzo is the most picked damage hero from Gold and above. And with each increase in tier, his pickrate increases because he’s that much better than the other damage heroes.

Sorry but your main is broken, they overdid his rework.

just look at jessica’s chart, how broken is he you tell me? dva is 90% pick rate, why don’t you pick on her?

this month, hanzo’s pick rate is 4.26% in gold rank at #8, to 7.19 in GM, but he is clearly broken? elims per game hanzo is ranked 8 th in gold and 2nd in Gm, he doesn’t top dmg charts, his k:d ratio is above average at 2.9 with soldier and tracer in GM lvl. his elim per game at gm lv is only .06 above genji and .5 above tracer. but somehow he is broken? you know that Dva’s K:D ratio is 4.2 in GM a good .4 above the 2nd in cast Zarya at 3.8: 1 ? that is broken. dva also does 14k dmg per game which is good 3k above tracer. and on par w/ genji with a 600 hp pool. and she has 90% pick rate in OWL. now that is broken. and hanzo pickrate has been declining. it was 10% a month ago in gm, now is 8%. so he is op?

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yOU NEED TO headshot TO DELETE TANKS.

tanks has a thing called shields? to protect them from damage?

If he wasn’t OP he wouldn’t have a high pick rate, that’s the bottom line.

There’s a reason why they’re reducing damage falloff for other damage heroes to help them compete with Hanzo and reducing the Graviton radius because Hanzo made Zarya more relevant.

And Healers/Tanks have a much more uneven spread because Hanzo has destroyed dive. Running a Rein/Zarya with Hanzo is the most effective thing to do. There’s also a lot less tanks and healers compared to damage heroes, so there is less to choose from.

you offer nothing of data other than pickrates to show hanzo is op. and right now hanzo pickrate is going on a downward trend while his damage number is on par with other characters. he is within 1% -3% of the 2nd place dps. which is not uncommon. where as the tanks and healers suffers from much more unhealthy spread.

to put things in perspective, tracer’s GM pickrate in the last 6 month was 6.76% (it would be more if her pick rate didn’t decline after introduction of brig). the next in line dps is genji @ 5.18%

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OK…

Yesterday I was playing against a Hanzo on Lijang Tower in the Garden stage.
My team was crossing the bridge without me, but Hanzo used Storm Arrow and deleted all 5 people as they crossed the bridge, turned around as I helplessly tried to stop him and one-shot me. Honestly I feel that shouldn’t be possible. Fair enough that he got me, he landed a legit headshot, but Stormarrow being lined up in a way so that he deletes an entire team seems wrong regardless of good your aim is. That’s ult levels of powerful.

It’s often used in much the same way as Pulse Bomb, except it’s much more powerful than that.