When in doubt of the solidity of your defense, throw Mercy under the bus 
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If we’re lucky he’ll be fixed by halloween
If we’re going to make Mercy comparisons, it’ll be 2019 summer games.
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If you can aim with Soldier, you can aim Hanzo. At midrange his arrows are so fast they might as well be hitscan. It’s very, very easy to hit bodyshots on people consistently now with him.
Storm bow will fire off its volley very quickly. Around 2 seconds. That’s very fast. With damage boosting and a headshot or two, you’re down pretty much before you can even react to it no matter what character you are on. That’s no more difficult than it was to land all arrows of a scatter on a tank.
Hanzo needed the higher consistency for his primary fire. But Storm arrow is complete bull. They need to give it the Fan the Hammer treatment.
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We ere talking about Storm Arrow compared to Scatter.
Scatter had instant damage, burstly like.
Storm Arrow can shoot only 1 arrow at the time in rapid succesion. Clearly over-time.
Over a time period short enough that it’s over time nature isn’t a meaningful disadvantage.
He needs a utility arrow rather than a damage ability. Any damage ability that doesn’t outdo is primary fire is going to be frivolous, and any damage higher than his primary fire is overpowered.
Maybe some kind of sticky arrow, explosive aoe knockback arrow, or flashbang arrow. I dunno. Something useful for its utility rather than it’s damage
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I don’t understand anything man.
Do you see Soldier fire-rate? That exactly how is supposed to be. Over-time with big fire-rate and low damage or bursty with low fire-rate and big damage…
He shoots lower damage arrows rapidly now instead of a one-big shot. he is clearly over-time now, which can lead to more things to deal with it.
Well lets reduce his shots to dealing 19 damage then.
Nope, Sodlier has bigger fire-rate than Storm arrow. So no, it won’t work.
That’s why your analogy sucks. It’s the burst that can’t be saved through.
To compare 76 properly you have to look at Helix Rockets, Hanzo effectively has like 4 of them, more often. And they can crit.
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Removing crits from storm makes the ability pointless to use. His primary would be better than his ability on a cooldown.
Are Helix Rockets pointless?
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Soldier doesnt do more burst with his primary than with helix.
In 2 seconds 2 primary crits = 500 dmg
Potential armor reduction 10 dmg
In 2 seconds 6 storm arrows no crits = 420 dmg
Potential armor reduction 30 dmg
Storm arrow is 70 to the body and 140 to the head, can be dodged unlike a helix to the foot, (excluding if hanzo is point blank with you cause the odds of not getting hit are slim) so no Storm arrow isn’t like helix rocket.
What’s then new meme, “hard to swallow pill?”
Look at Hanzo’s stats. He’s a spam hero, not a precision one.
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So you suggest a change which nerfs precision?
Yes, because he’s benefiting from “precision” when broadly it’s just luck.
You think he’s puking out as much damage as Junk and Pharah because people are just really accurate? Come now.
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Yup. The fact he’s still a 3 star hero after his rework is a joke. He’s just a spammer now. Faster projectiles and an ability that is literally spamming rapid fire sniper projectiles. Add to that an excellent mobility ability that prevents him from being dived while still allowing him to use his arrows has left him so broken it’s actually a joke.
And the nerfs applied? Don’t kid yourself. These “tickles” can’t even be classed as nerfs. They’ve got to beat him round the head with the nerf bat to stop him being the king of midrange DPS. I have no idea why they are doing nothing to reduce his fame output. They either have to reduce his primary speed or completely gut storm arrow, because currently he has no downsides.
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Sure all Hanzos players just depend on luck. Thats not a biased generalization at all.
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This is subject to change as both of their mobilities are about to get nerfed by 20%, Hanzo’s damage output is about to get nerfed and Baguette (despite not even being meta anymore) is getting a nerf. Something has already been done and as long as the developers are satisfied with the data they collect from the PTR it will go through.
There’s no need right now to ask for fixes. Wait until the changes hit live, let the meta settle for 2-3 weeks and then come back to the topic unless you have critisism towards the changes in PTR