So I guess sombra isn't a flanker anymore

Like they merged stealth and TP into one cooldown, and even if you wait out the full duration of stealth you still have to wait 2 seconds for it to come back online.

For comparison sake this like if they removed Rewind and just gave a tracer an extra blink.


Like not only does she have to run in blind an attempt set-up in whatever scenario happens in that 5 seconds. She just can’t immediately enter combat without having to wait even longer for her escape tool, making an ideal set-up that does happen in 5 seconds kind of pointlessif it doesn’t line-up with the end point.

And simply can’t navigate the map while invis like she does now.

This also kills her mid combat mobility, because like it was common to use TP just quickly close the gaps between players. In a larger team fight.

Mind you sombra’s already don’t hack a lot of their targets, do to it giving away their position and giving the enemy and their team time to set-up cooldowns or break hack. So the extra damage is kind of pointless now that hack is less consistent to apply at all.

So like what was the point of this?

You give her extra damage from the set-up, but heavily hurt her ability to set-up like at all.


Also like this is now an issue for tanks again, because of the 20% extra damage so like standing behind a barrier hack, 192dps that can head shot + virus.

This was the sort of scenario the last verstion was trying to avoid no?

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I’m optimistic that these changes will make Sombra feel less oppressive to play against! We shall see!

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Haven’t played the changes yet, so don’t have any particular feelings but-

Wasn’t one of the favored Pro-Sombra arguments that “This is a Team Game!!!” and you shouldn’t be allowed to go running off on your own.

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Says the guy with multiple posts asking for nerfs.

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She’s still a flanker, you just have to actual think about your routing and pathing now instead of going everywhere for free.

The enemy has a chance to see you before you waltz off to kill them.

Sombra will still be good, she just won’t be super easy to pickup anymore since you will need to practice and get good before countering people now.

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How to say your a low rank player with no games sense, without saying it directly. ahaha

Ya that’s the issue, all flankers get that for free and have survivability, sombra will be the odd man out here.

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You cannot play this new sombra as a flanker vs mobile heroes you will die 99% of time. She is going to be played in brawl mirrors as sombra 76 waiting to hack enemy tank.

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People see Genji and Tracer coming 100% of the time, are they not flankers?

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I’ve waited for your extra salty crutchy whiny tears for so long, they are exquisite. Time for Sombras to reap what they’ve sewn

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All of your hard work finally paid off, MauveElk. Well done. This proves that an individual can make a change as long as they have hope.

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They actually don’t in many cases, because well flanks exists and LOS breaks to most locations.

You maybe get to engage as they getting closer but theirs nothing stopping them from saying taking the middle route on numbani attack and being right next to the point.

The balancing of this game is just terrible.

Instead of finding a middle ground and making her a solid pick, they can only manage to make her either an oppressive monster or a pointless waste of a slot.

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You TP (hope no one jumps on you) wait 5s in stealth and then you still have 2s on tp while engaging which is enough to get easily punished. Tracer has 3 blinks + recall to toy around with genji has reflect + dash and can get dash resets they are not the same.

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Hope, and the courage to speak the truth.

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So what’s stopping Sombra from doing all that? She has a teleport into invisibility with massive speed boost, that’s plenty to flank with.

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Says the one who made a whole thread about how they can’t play without a permenant invisacrutch.

Face facts, 95% of the playerbase hates sombras guts and these changes are long overdue.

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You don’t have to sit there and wait, you just need to use the stealth in order to get to your target rather than waiting there next to them for the perfect opportunity

She can even see low health targets through walls again, she’s got the tools to flank.

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I said putting stealth on a cooldown doesn’t really change what people don’t like about it.

Here they basically just removed an ability outright.

that’s the issue, you need that moment to set-up hack which has a cast time and can be interrupted.

Now you just it’s luck of the scenario if that can go off, and you have no escape tool if it breaks and your caught out.

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They both have much better and consistent movement tools + increased base movement speed

:wink:

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Except Genji and Tracer both have TWO abilities to engage and disengage.

Sombra has one ability that’s somehow required to help her engage and disengage with no other form of survival.

I hate Sombra but these changes are DOODOO.

If they just put Stealth on a timer and kept it a separate ability, she’d be perfect.

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