Smurfing is cheating, change my mind

Was watching a youtube video the other day about how some kid bought a t500 account and got discovered and was trashed like hell in that video.

Also remember streams where streamers detected bought accounts on the enemy team and the enemy was asking for a draw since they were in a huge disadvantage, which I agree, they were. But the comments that the streamer made about bought accounts, boosted accounts and people who do it as well as the comments in game astounded me. For every high ranked player and streamer it is completely ok to smurf in lower elos and stomp on noobs, but when they get a boosted account or a bought account in their matches, especially on their precious main the whole hell breaks lose.

Double standard.

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This is one of my biggest issues with the community honestly. Both kinds of players (boosted people/smurfs) ruin games at the rank they are playing at for one simple reason. It makes the games not fair even by the in game standards. The matchmaker can’t account that a bronze player bought a gm account or a gm player bought a bronze or silver account because it has no data to suggest that.

Yet it seems that people only worry about the one that directly affects their games while ignoring or even endorsing the other type of player. Higher elo players complain about “boosted” players all day yet think smurfs don’t ruin games, low elo players complain about smurfs yet think boosted players don’t ruin games.

Their argument on either side? The mmr will adjust and put them back where they belong of course. Yet a lot of the time it doesn’t, especially with smurfs since no matter how aggressively the game may adjust their sr to try to boost them up, they can just go lose a bunch of games if they really want to to make up for it. Even with boosted players, the game has so much data backlogged of them deserving the high rank that no matter how much they may lose, it’ll take forever to get down to a rank they actually belong in.

No matter how much the MMR will try to fix an incorrectly place account, the fact that they need to win/want to win to get back up to where they belong, or lose/not get drawn if the game has any hope to put them down where they belong will slow it down because even just with luck they will win games if they are much higher than they deserve and if they are lower they can always throw.

No matter how well the game will do to put someone back where they actually belong, it will always lead to games with people that don’t belong in them, whether higher or lower than that rank, and have those games be of a lower quality than they should be on average. Simply because it can’t put them right where they belong right away.

Yet the circle of arguments continues. “Smurfs are fine just beat them and climb, they’ll end up back where they belong. Boosted players are the ones ruining my games.” “Boosted players are fine, just win with them and climb, they’ll end up back where they belong. Smurfs are the ones ruining my games.” They’re both right about the one’s being problems but lose focus when they try to discredit someone else’s experience when someone ruined their ranked game by being at a rank they have no right to be in.

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I agree.

I also forgot to mention like a year ago or so maybe I was in this match we lost because the enemy smurf just completely obliterated us and then one of the players in my team admitted to account sharing. He had a rl friend who was in GM and gave him one of his alt accounts. He was like “And this is why I go on my friend’s account to troll in GM. If they can ruin my games I can ruin theirs until Blizzard fixes the game.” He actually admitted that he was even able to win some games,lol and every time he would drop out of GM and Masters his friend would bring it up to GM again and the cycle continued. I understand it, but I condone it, the same way I understand why ppl smurf (because I cannot play my precious Genji in GM) and I condone it as well.I am personally no longer bothered by smurf since I got used to it.

In high elso if a player notices a bought or boosted account everyone will avoid and report that player, but in low elos the team who had the smurf won’t report him since hey free sr but will try and group up with him to get more free sr. That is sad too, because people are so hungry and desperate for sr they would accept anything.

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Low SR players do that simply because for every smurf that is cooperative/helpful on their team and they can group with for more wins, it feels like there are 3-4 games with someone throwing or hacking on either team or a smurf tryharding on the other team who can only insult the skill of players everyone knows they don’t belong with, and even when you get the occasional smurf on your team who is trying to win, they often berate their own teammates for not playing exactly how they want them too, not pocketing them, or not playing like gms themselves. “Trash teammates that’s why you’re bronze, gold, silver.” is what they hear a lot even when the smurf on their team is trying.

They do it for the same reason they add anyone else in the game, they’re tired of being kicked around and want teammates that don’t bully anyone and cooperate.

people who think smurfing is cheating are dumb CHANGE MY MIND.

Change the MMR system so people wouldn’t smurf.

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Screw jeff and him saying “smurfing is legit” b/c it’s not. It’s crap. Every game is a freaking level 30 that just destroys everything.

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Depends why you’re smurfing.

For one not every smurf is at the same level of skill.

For two, if I am really good or a 1 trick mcree main but I want to play/practice Genji/Widow/Mei/Reaper
 whatever, and I don’t wanna lose SR on my main account, of course I would try them out on a separate account. I might still be better than most people


Unless we mean people who throw from high rank to low rank on purpose to stomp lowbies
 but these are/there are different kinds of smurfs and reasons for smurfing. Some are a little more gray, others are lame
 but you can’t throw them all into the same basket.

You and your boisterous sanctimony are dumb, change my mind


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Avoiding proper matchmaking is an abuse of the system, and it is unethical. The only ethical way you can use it is to learn a new hero you really suck at - and most people DON’T use it for this purpose.

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Ah, but in replying to this post you just did.

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pathetic smurf detected

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Smurfing IS cheating.

Know where the term came from?

Money laundering. Gambling. For instance, a smurf takes illegal money to a casino, to put it in the system by losing on purpose.

Smurfs are involved in illegal activity, and they are in Overwatch too. They should be banned. Only ONE account should be allowed in Comp.

Actually Smurfing came from back in the day when the Warcraft community created their own way to play against each other, two duo players became so notorious because of their skill no one would play against them so they made new accounts under the names “papa smurf” and “Smurfette” so they could trounce lower skilled players in disguise

Well then it’s so notorious that it’s a term they use for money laundering too, lol.

you are correct I used to work in Lloyds fraud dept, I guess its because in money laundering terms they use “smurfs” to deposit many but small deposits

More like POS player who isn’t getting his way so he destroys the competitive integrity for everyone else and blames his behavior on everyone else


Imagine
 a high level player blaming his incompetence on something other than himself. Sanctimonious karma wave comes crashing down
 :joy::joy:

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Yea right, I dont understand a) what’s fun in smurfing I.e playing against people BELOW your skill . B) why people can defend it in any way shape or form

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You know those games where you’re on Fire the whole time, you’re dropping bodies, the enemy is switching/counter picking and you can tell just getting utterly tilted because nothing they’ve done is working?

Smurf’s are incapable of experiencing that type of play because at their level they’re just average (or being carried). They want to feel powerful over other people. So they go to lower ranks to get that feeling of usefulness/skillful player congratulatory upvote.

In reality it’s all hollow and they’ve given up on the (git gud) philosophy because they can’t flex that perspective anymore.

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sadists should be sterilized. We need to get rid of this mentality in the human race, honestly.

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