Sleep Dart as a Disengage

There’s our answer. Ana’s Sleep Dart is her disengage, the tool she uses to keep space from her enemies and counteract their assault.

However, there are several issues with this.

  • Sleep Dart is on an extremely long cooldown, one of the longest in the game. Though powerful, this means that virtually all mobile enemies will get their engage tool back before Ana gets Sleep Dart back.
  • It has a very slow projectile speed and a delay with a clearly identifiable sound effect, making it easy to avoid at long ranges.
  • Allies can mess up Ana’s “disengage”, as any amount of damage is enough to wake the attacker up early, before Ana can actually get away.

So here’s the goal: Rework Sleep Dart so that it is more effect as Ana’s disengage by making it less effective at it’s other job: interrupting enemies. Brigitte is testament to the fact that nobody likes hard, instantaneous CC, and any CC that is supposed to lock down a flanker is also effective (usually more effective) on a non-mobile hero.

Here’s something I’d love to see:

Sleep Dart

  • Cooldown reduced to 8 seconds (was 12 seconds)
  • Projectile speed increased
  • Maximum Sleep duration reduced to 1.5 seconds (was 5.5 seconds)
  • When a target is hit, they do not fall asleep immediately. Instead, they become drowsy*, and are slowed by 5%, ramping up to 75% over the next 1.5 seconds. Once the slow reaches 75%, they fall asleep.
    *Drowsy heroes cannot use movement abilities like Blink or Jump Pack, but can still move.
  • Upon waking, heroes are slowed by 50%, ramping down over the course of the next 2.5 seconds. They are drowsy during this time.

These changes would make Ana’s Sleep Dart less useful as an emergency interrupt for an enemy ult, but would give Ana immense control over the enemy’s mobility. Hitting an enemy with a Sleep Dart wouldn’t immediately put them to sleep, but would instead lock off their mobility. Ana would be rewarded for those difficult long-range Sleep Darts by preventing the enemy from engaging on her entirely.

Even after the target is woken up, they won’t have their mobility available for a short delay, with a pretty hefty slow. Most of the duration of Sleep Dart is weighted into these periods of drowsiness, rather than the sleep duration itself. This creates less of a window for allies to mess up Ana’s disengage, and even if they do, they only cut 1.5 seconds out of Ana’s time to get away.

Heroes without mobility cooldowns and other easy targets like Roadhog or Zarya will barely feel a Sleep Dart. It will be little more than a McCree Flashbang to them with a long delay to warn them of the incoming stun, where heroes like Tracer or Winston will be crippled by it for an extended period of time.

Ana would have a tool on a relatively short cooldown that can keep enemies in check and allow her to keep her spacing. She would be less useful for interrupting ults like Pharah’s or Roadhog’s, but she would overall be safer from threats and able to make plays by slowing and crippling enemies with Sleep Dart.

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So basically let’s make McCree even more useless?

So you wanna give Ana hack, with no cast time, coupled with a slow and a stun?

Good thing she fires a volley of at least three homing sleeping darts that have a set duration and dont break on damage.

Oh wait…

I don’t agree with OP but how does Ana having a Sleep Dart make McCree worse.

McCree’s problem is that there are Damage Heroes who can do his job better than him.

It isn’t Hack. It has a 0.5-second delay before it’s fired, like a normal Sleep Dart, and must be aimed.

Any ability that doesn’t involve mobility wouldn’t be affected by the “drowsy” status. She couldn’t stop Roadhog from hooking and killing her, or Junkrat from using a mine to blow her up, or Tracer from sticking a Pulse Bomb. Only the abilities that are normally locked by a Steel Trap couldn’t be used, leaving many heroes with their full kits still available.

Enemies would have a moment to pop defensive cooldowns like Wraith Form, Cryofreeze, or Particle Barrier to block the Sleep Dart (wasting Ana’s cooldown, unlike Hack), or even cleanse the drowsiness after being hit.

The slow is there to help Ana get away. Enemies hit can still shoot at her during the drowsy periods, but hefty slows on either end of the sleep where they don’t have mobility cooldowns let Ana actually create space between herself and them.

The game is not balanced around McCree, nor is McCree’s one and only purpose tied to his Flashbang. He has a hitscan weapon with an incredibly fast TTK at close to medium range. The stun is not the star of his kit, the Peacekeeper is.

Sleep Dart’s main draw is its versatility. The ability can be used as intended, a disengage, but it can also allow Ana to set up a damage combo with her grenade and rifle, interrupt ultimates and channeled abilities, screw up someone’s momentum in a fight and open them to attack… there are so many options. In that sense, Ana is the support version of Soldier: 76- an amazing generalist with lots of options, but not any particular abilities that will let a certain playstyle shine.

Just make it have a shorter cooldown on missing problem solved.

This alone defeats the purpose of it being a disengage tool.

And this is enough time to get those last few headshots in on you.

This idea is terrible.

Targets have their mobility locked for 5.5 seconds, and are either heavily slowed or completely stunned. The intention is that you use the increased projectile speed to land it from further away so they never get the chance to get to you.

If they’re point-blank, they have 1.5 seconds to kill you before they pass out, and they are slowed significantly during that time, allowing Ana to back up.

Ana can also shoot at the target with impunity while they are slowed without ruining the sleep. Instead of one free shot, she gets 2-3 easy ones, and had it up every 8 seconds.