You know what I mean by that phrase, I’m not talking about the stun alone, but the follow up of it as well, wich rn means death for most heroes till 250 hp and with focus fire from teammates for everyone above that.
There are some people that can play Ana with less skill just by using a biotic grenade and spam m1 in the general direction of their teammates. It could still do a whole lot more healing to keep tanks alive.
Also, I’m sure Brigitte can be skillful by also having game sense as well. Yeah, I get it. “Brigitte is OP and must get nerfed” and whatever else. She does still have skill at either flanking, learning to back away from danger, using repair kit efficiently, needing to actually hit someone to use the passive ability, needing to take a risk of shield bashing while in the frontline, trying to go for a whip shot, and-
oh my. I sure have made a list of somethings Brigitte has to keep track of while playing in a single game.
Plus other heroes in the game could also have less skill. Winston only has to aim his jumps, but he could just hold M1 in the general direction. Rein could swing his hammer from side to side. Bastion could just turtle. Sym could place turrets in at cheeky spots.
The list could go on and on and on.
Bandwagon fallacy and objectively false. Dive was most definitely used in ladder… A bunch of statistical websites are here to confirm that. 
Other than the flankers, Dive was relatively easy to pull off. Dva and Winston are both pretty straightforward to pick up. Zen and Lucio (or Mercy) are also pretty easy to pick up, excluding maybe Zen since he needs to focus on discording the right people. That being said, insisting that it was a pro-level strategy is a huge hyperbole.
Don’t you think that a lot of people “trying it” means that it was pretty straightforward to pick up and that you asserting that it is a pro-level strategy is just an over exaggeration? 
They’re both tanks. 
If you want a better comparison, how about Orisa and Reinhardt? Reinhardt still is more rewarding even though Orisa requires more skill.
Wat?
Between a Rein and a Hammond, Rein is still going to be more rewarding… Can we not with this? The fact that Rein has a ridiculously high pick rate compared to Hammond already suggests this. Then there’s the fact that Rein is the go-to main tank.
And like I said, he, a low skilled hero, still is more rewarding than Hammond, a relatively high skilled hero. Your logic should apply to them but clearly it does not so this whole nonsense about high skill = high reward and low skill = low reward needs to stop.
Except, Zen is more rewarding than Mercy.
𝓣𝓱𝓮 𝓜𝓮𝓻𝓬𝔂 𝓘𝓬𝓮 𝓒𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓶 𝓜𝓸𝓿𝓮𝓶𝓮𝓷𝓽
Spreading positivity and ice cream, one Mercy at a time.
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Could you… hit me up with some of that ice-cream please?
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The moba aspect of the game determined that it ultimate goal is to put all hero on equal footing without considering too much of hero difficulties.
By your standard top 500 would be filled only those ‘skilled hero’ players, that is healthy for the game?
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Spreading positivity and ice cream, one Mercy at a time.
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:O!! (20 full chars?)
Depending on the flavor I would want some as well, really hot rn here where I live.
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lets start with salted caramel than
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Dive > Goats any day
that isnt a reliable playstyle
i outhealed these anas with zen pls
and it was proved true by many people
she can overextend and back away easily ye that’s not skill that’s been op.
shouldnt even be able to do so
there is no waste when using it, u can just randomly click on it to provide value. but i kno u can use it for greater value, yet u dont even aim it like a torb or ana lel.
has autoaim
shieldbashing is a safe ability as her body is covered.
the only thing that can kill her is a sniper headshot pls
using her wall peaking to secure unfair kills.
has to position and manage his bubble, he’s a very high skill ceiling hero, and all u need to do is actually watch xQc … i mean muma play him, he has A LOT of things to aim and keep in mind when extending, he has the biggest head hitbox and a very large body one, with little armor compare to other tanks.
maybe in bronze.
and die bcz he dropped his shield in the wrong position and took a lot of damage, if only he had a bigger shield tank to protect him like brig.
you just proved yourself knowing nothing about the game.
go watch some kolorblind streams.
10s cooldown 30hp slow projectiles that wont move when placed.
all you’re doing is proving me that you could really use a few KarQ and RagTagg videos.
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i tried to quote your post but the forums gut triggerd by the swear hidden in your name pal
noobchamps in league are bad after 3h of playing.
and league is the best esports out there so ye brig should be bad at anything else then her job : healing and ccing the enemy flanks and dive tanks while blocking damage for her supports
Do you feel this way about Doomfist’s ruinous nerfs?
Of course that some heroes could have so much skill when you’re actually putting in the effort. Made the list be entirely satire since you could do so much more with these heroes. That same effort could also be put in with Brigitte, Moira, and Mercy.
I played this game since day 1 when it first released. I have seen the horrors of how some heroes played before they needed nerfs. Even though I have a plat rank, I’m at 5 stars bronze in leveling, and as well practicing how to play these heroes pretty well. I still have prior game knowledge.
also RagTagg makes very low quality vids imo.
Kolorblind is a great streamer and Bastion player.
OWL is a money pool, TI is better, by far.
Ok, I will put it this way, by your standard, the game is healthier by ‘limiting the hero pool’ as you hit a certain rank, otherwise you loss?
You do realise this is stupid right? We each have our favourite character despite its viability, for me it is Bastion, am I not allow to play it as I get better and have to force to play, lets say McCree?
Brig is complicated, she is played in off-dps position because speed boost and main healer are essential for her to be effective in team environment, and by having two aoe healing tanks are better utilised. In short, she is bad at off healer position because she is too slow and has no range. Anyway, I was not pointing to Brig in my original post.
to achieve a high rank for less overall efforts then anyother hero.
this is where the tricky balancing comes, u need a hero’s power justified by the ammount of skill it provides. heavy escapability? giver moira a fat hitbox.
mercy needs no aim ? give her 50hps (gg blizzard) and it can go on.
sorry if i seemed abit salty, i really could use some sleep, so i appologize an hope to continue the ragtagg debate in a few hours.
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are you from the future? or is the patch already live? confused.
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So Blizzard made OWL for the community too then?
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I know, god forbid people work as a TEAM in a TEAM based game or have map awareness instead of run and gun.
Symmetra could not hit people behind her either, so she wasn’t a lock on either I guess.