EDIT: Since people are still replying to this thread, Iām changing the title to something more accurate. Weāve moved passed the patch where Rein was hit hard, and weāre now in a meta where he is incredibly good. I still wouldnāt mind seeing him become immune to shield bash while his shield is up, and see him be able to trade with charge, so Iām leaving the thread up.
Iāve been against buffing Reinhardt for a while now because I truly believe that he isnāt a bad hero and that his viability is dependent on the strength of his counters, the Dive heroes. I thought that once they got toned down, he would see much more play.
That was until Brigitte was released.
Brigitte is a hero who is designed to deal with the Dive heroes specifically; youād think this would really help Rein out wouldnāt you? Hereās the problem: Not only does Brigitte counter Dive, she also completely invalidates Reinās biggest strength, his shield, with her shield-bash ability. She is able to walk up to Rein point blank and stun him out of shield more reliably than any CC in the game. Every other CC ability has to be aimed in an area where Reinās shield isnāt covering, requiring skill from the CCer and opening up potential counterplay for the Rein (shield angling, mind-games, etc.) With Brigitteās shield-bash, this isnāt the case. Rein can even be knocked out of his charge by this ability. Itās ridiculous, and even though she is quickly becoming one of my favorite heroes to play as, something needs to be done about this.
That is why Iām proposing that Rein should be immune to Brigitteās shield-bash while his shield is up. Brigitte was intended to counter Dive, the strongest comp in the game currently. There is no reason for her to also be so oppressive to the worst tank in the game at the same time by making the only thing Rein is good at completely irrelevant. This, on top of the fact that Reaper, Mei and Doomfist are all receiving buffs will surely make Rein even worse than he currently is. Itās looking pretty bleak.
Please, for the Reinhardt mains that were already discouraged when Orisa basically made Rein obsolete, donāt make it even worse for us.
TLDR; Brigās shield bash interrupts Reinās shield and charge and I donāt think it should.
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I agree. Hogās hook canāt go through the shield, so itās pretty stupid that Bridgetteās mace can.
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Her mace canāt, Iām talking about her shield-bash. Itās the only CC ability in the game that can go through shields. Unless you mean her melee?
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As an aspiring Brig main, I found it odd that she countered his shield considering sheās supposed to be his squire.
This is a well put together suggestion, and not the usual āNERF BRIG ERMERGERDā thread, so hopefully people will actually read it and this starts a conversation!
That all being said, I agree. Rein should be immune to her shield bash with his shield up, but I am uncertain how they would tune that without it bugging every CC. 
But, Iām certainly no programmer, and if weāve seen anything from Blizz, itās that they can work magic!
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As much as I love Swedish Baguette I agree some of her bash interactions should have change.
Good example is Bash vs Charge or DerpFist. Currently it looks like this: DF > Bash > Charge. I belive it should work as DF vs Charge where both players are toppled when they colide.
Also Rein shiled should protect him from bash, at least from front. But I am afraid it is tied to all shileds interactions. If shiled stoped bash Winston shiled could too and that would be problem for ādive counterā design of Briggy.
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That is fair. He can punch craters into solid concrete, Brig should at least be knocked downāespecially when Rein, who is much biggerāis and she isnāt. This is the stuff we need to be discussing! Little tweaks, quality of life! 
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I kinda agree. I dont think baguette needs a nerf like a lot of people ask i simple think 2-3 heroes need to be adapted like rein even tho i dont play him whatsoever. I also hope baguette s knockback doesnt stop hogs hook (another hero i dont play at all)
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I donāt think her shield bash should stun him through shield, so +1 to this suggestion! Thanks for a well put together post. Reinhardtās main deal is his shield, taking that away from him seems silly.
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Thing is i belive they just made bash into buffed McCree stun so all those werid interactions we are experiancing make sense.
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Then that actually makes sense. Theyād have to craft a separate CC for the shield slam and then have it not interact with Reinās shieldāsimilar to the way Flashbang already doesnāt. At least I hope Iām correct in this assumption! D:
What especially worries me is that DF, Reaper and Mei, characters who are already good against Rein, are getting buffed next patch. If Rein isnāt even able to keep his shield up consistently because of Brigitte, I canāt imagine what itās going to be like for him when a team decides to run all of these heroes at once. Itāll be cyberbullying at that point ![:sweat_smile:](https://d74zh8edaijub.cloudfront.net/en/overwatch/images/emoji/twitter/sweat_smile.png?v=5" ":sweat_smile:")
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Briggite, McCree, Mei, Doomfist, Roadhog, Reaper - Ultimate Rein bullies comp.
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If you are worried about Rein being ccād by Brigitte, take a Zarya along with you to eat up the damage that comes in when Rein gets stunned.
It works out better, cause Zarya gets more charge, and Rein gets more shield up time (since it is not being shot at).
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This is a sound suggestion!
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I agree and support this. Rein is my favorite hero and if he wasnāt getting more and more frustrated to play, heād be my top pick. My playtime is dropping hard as well as is my enjoyment in the game. Recently I have been more and more instalocking DPS characters like Junkrat because of this.
The changes incoming do not look good for Reinhardt and at this point seeing how completely silent Blizzard is, I do not have any hope left.
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This is something I can agree with. Rein gets too much disrupted from Brigs shield bash.
Edit: btw make it so he can be stunned if hit directly by it (aka being flanked).
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100% agree
dont let our fav. crusader die blizz ![:frowning:](https://d74zh8edaijub.cloudfront.net/en/overwatch/images/emoji/twitter/frowning.png?v=5" ":frowning:")
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I wasnāt really a Rein āfanā until I saw the Honor and Glory cinematic. I canāt even think about it without tearing up. So. GOOD.
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No, the shield bash should go through Rein because itās a Melee same as any other melee in the game like Doomfistās Rocket punch or Genjiās dash.
Also sheās not hitting the shield but rather Rein himself. Itās a simple logic.
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+1 on this.
With the Reaper and the Mei buff coming, Rein is already facing a really bad time. Brig just completely puts the nail on his coffin!
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