Revert Reaper Shotgun changes and just decrease spread

Lol random crits in ow. That would be a fun custom game setting tbh

Its not SUPER minor shotgun spread. If you pick Hog and shoot a target you can do 50 damage the first shot and 120 the next! Sleepdart is perfectly acurate so its no RNG but if sleepdart had a change to go 20 degrees to the left or right that would be RNG. its the same with shotgun spread. And whats horrible with the Reaper changes is that the spread has “deadzones” where no bullets hit even if your crosshair is on ther target. So as Reaprer on PTR its acually better to miss by 2 feet rather then 1 foot since you will land in a “deadzone” where there are no pellets…

The point of my post was that I DON’T want RNG!

I think they should reduce the spread but keep the randomisation changes.

Either way they definitely need to compensate somewhat because right now it’s become more consistent to the point it’s consistently less effective.

Maybe, honestly I think they should just try and readjust it so more of the spread goes in the middle. Rather than the majority of it going as far away as possible

Yep, and of course the PTR isn’t actually for feedback. It’s just for bug testing

Or maybe, now that his gun is consistent, they can buff him better?
They know that it deals less damage, and this time, the resulting damage per shot won’t be too random, so they can adjust it without risk of making him do too much damage.

I still believe that Reaper’s damage isn’t his biggest weakness: his kit is very bad. That’s why Roadhog is better at his job. He needs a better/new E.

That’s true, but if they’re going to buff his shotguns they should at least do it right

I think the randomization reduction has great potential but only if they reduce the spread to be reasonable.

I agree that it’s a nerf but it also in affect means that if you want to be doing the same amount of dmg as before, then you need to aim for the head. The live version right now only did so much dmg because of the random pellets landing on the head. but with less random bullets landing on the head that means you have to intentionally aim for the head. This new PTR change gives Reaper a little bit higher of a skill ceiling. And honestly that’s not that bad.

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Okay, I might have misunderstood you. My apologies.

These changes make Reaper a lot more effective at tank busting. Which is what he needed help being better at.

The new spread pattern also encourages shooting at their centre mass, not just their head. Unless youre point blank. Which is how you play with shotguns in any other shooter.

Working as intended.

Unpopular opinion:
Reaper’s Spread is not that bad. The main problem is the BRUTAL damage dropoff.

Make the pellets do 4-8 damage instead of 2-7.

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I wouldn’t use a flashbang as an example here champ, it has a non-trivial chance to simply not work.

It literally makes him deal less damage at most ranges except point blank. You don’t know what you’re talking about

He literally does the same damage up close where all pellets are hitting. Do not get me wrong, I do not like these changes at all. But it is disingenuous to claim that he does less damage at point blank.

Yeah I thought someone was going to go “well uh actually uh he does the same damage *sniff * at uh close ranges so your wrong heheheh”.

I edited for you because some people like ignoring the main ideas of a thread and instead nit pick specific wording

That makes no sense. The person you were responding to was blatantly speaking exclusively about point blank range. You called him ignorant upon the basis that he does less damage at all ranges. His premise is objectively true. The only part to contest is “working as intended” which you did not address. Do not blame me that you are unable to comprehend other people’s arguments and type blatantly false facts. I probably would have let it slide if you had not used the word literally, but it seemed pretty clear to me that you misunderstood the changes and therefore it required correcting. If you thought about it, why purposely type wrong information to someone whose point you are not even responding to?

Beyond that, I am not ignoring the main point of the thread. I said I did not like these changes and more or less agree with the premise. But going crazy and typing delusional stuff like that is not going to get us anywhere. He believes these changes are beneficial for a tank-busting Reaper. I would argue he would be just as, if not better, at tank-busting with a proper spread that enabled you to hit most of your pellets to the head at point blank.

No, he said that it encouraged shooting at the head except for in point blank.

This isn’t true because the new spread is literally engineered to have the majority of bullets hit the edge of the spread. This discourages shooting at the head and instead encourages shooting at the part where your spread is most likely to hit.

There is the problem, you misread it. He stated it encourages shooting at center mass.