i guess reading comprehension isn’t your strong suite… please reread it as many times as you need to spot the difference between what I posted vs role queue
Are you talking about:
you are in character-pick screen, but you can pick character, no restrictions… and their system should display an icon as what it queued them as
So if I picked Damage and Support and decided to play Orisa, then I am a Tank with a, let’s say I got picked to play Support, Support icon?
What’s the point of the Role Queue then?
I really dont want to rank shame but… I am not saying bronze people are trash. They are just bad at game at the time they are there. Thats why they are in bronze. I am just trying to be honest, i know many people will not like this. But it doesnt mean you cant get better and climb. Many my friends climbed from bronze. You have to start focusing on youself and stop blaming others . Yes your bastion dps player might be bad at protecting you, but so are you at your role. Thats why you are in game with people skilled as him. Being grouped and staying with team doesnt automaticly mean be safe. I didnt say you said that you cant expect diamond play in bronze. I am saying it. Do you think others care about me as support in low plat? No they dont, i still have to play in a way to evade flankers or deal with them on my own. People will start to care about their team mates somewhere in high plat +.
Sure you cant see behind you. Just peek behind you from time to time. Have better positioning so flankers dont suprise you. Not to mention your guardiand angel. You being very close to team might be actual issue because as reaper will target you, you have nowhere to fly with guardian angel.
Stop expecting some kind of play from your team mates. Its up to you to secure wins in your game. Oh i know whats going on. I had friends in bronze, i have been in low bronze and i coached many people from bronze. I know exactly whats going on and its almost every time same mentality “i am not problem, my team mates are.”
I am actualy player who help my team mates even when often people in lower range of my ele dont do that themselfs. And btw i can link you many recorded games where i did belp to my support team mates, so you are wrong.
just a preference as to what roles people like to play so the teams can be built more efficiently
before this, it was putting 4-5 DPS mains on the same team occasionally (so it’s like role queue with 4-5 players who picked “DPS”… in the system I describe it would never start the game with a comp like this, even though it’s just a preference)
if you queue up and they realize you can have a 2/2/2 comp based on the preferred roles then the players will be flexible enough to at least start the game in those roles
i think they should have done it as a primary/secondary type of system too… not equal weighted… I’d be willing to play tank but I prefer DPS… and I’d wait a little longer to play DPS… but if I pick DPS and tank now, every game it will queue me as a tank no matter what… so I basically have to just pick DPS only with the current system (plus the rating system basically forces people into 1 role now)
I knew a girl from one of my game dev classes was stuck in Bronze. Went over to her house and saw that she wasn’t using headphones, was using her phone (while the match was going), had music blasting so you couldn’t even hear anyone in voice chat or even the game, not learning from replays, eating while playing. She had great positioning and what to do in game, just the outside forces of her behavior was what was keeping her in Bronze.
She fixed all of that and focused on climbing, she’s in Plat now and a far better player than before.
What we literally have now. I select Damage and Support because I main Support and love to also play as Torb, Sym, Mei, Reaper, etc. I rarely see Damage queue pop unless I queue for only the Damage role.
So what’s to stop someone from just never switching and abusing this? There are 2 tanks, 3 dps, 1 support. All of the DPS say they won’t switch so the game doesn’t start? You could have a three stack do this and easily troll people.
We literally have this right now, you’re in queue for a 2/2/2 match. Unless you’re saying that people ARE going to BE flexible. Again, a ton of room for abuse as outlined above.
It is a “whatever-is-needed-to-start-a-match-and-who-is-in-queue” system. You’re being thrown into a game as a Tank because that match needs a tank and you opted to be a Tank.
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by game not starting I mean, it won’t even put you in the character select screen
the only way to abuse this system would be if DPS queued as supports to get into a game fast… idk… maybe they could lock the roles initially but have a way of unlocking them after the game starts? or flag players who do that often
People are already doing this.
so what’s the point of having different SR for different roles? this is a bad idea.
what, like DPS moira/zenyata?
i don’t like having different SRs per role… people who were flexible before won’t be queueing up with multiple roles because of this
what are you talking about, they’ll queue up for every role and enjoy the lowest queue times.
Why do ppl talk like the new 2-2-2 system will “Force ppl to play 1 role” this makes no sense to me. If you are a Healer who doesnt want to play healer then dont f*cking que as healer. This 2-2-2 update makes it so that everyone gets to play what they want. Like if you are a flex player Que all of the roles at the same time, jeez it isnt so hard xd
I’d rather have someone playing support at their true rank rather than a higher DPS main being forced to fill as support.
its theire mindset about they have to swap roles mid game, and not only hero. the new system wont allow them to do this but have to stay within the role they have selected. No matter what they queue for they have the urge of knowing they can step inside someone elses role if they think, decide,mean someone is not doing theire cut on the team.
I was fine at my role.
I’m here because I do like 15 matches a year and don’t climb.
My healing is usually well over 10k+.
Again, believing that your dps should be able to protect your healers is not bad.
You keep blaiming me for that.
Maybe you should stop.
I have had plenty of amazing players in bronze.
As I said, the rest of my team stayed together grouped up and helped me survive.
They’re not the only people.
Because they’re bronze? Right?
You say you’re not rank shaming, but you are.
You are saying people will act certain ways because they are in bronze.
Stop.
And they’re still in bronze.
Because you’re acting like they’re somehow the bad ones for wanting their team to act like a team.
I understand I have issues.
But this isn’t one of them.
Again, I have been in plenty of amazing games in bronze where the team came up and worked together.
I have been in gold and played with higher ranked matches.
And they didn’t play as a team.
Being in bronze doesn’t mean you can’t play as a team, and I’m not really sure why you keep assuming it.
According to you, it doesn’t happen.
So you’re lying 
Well you are in bronze right? So obviously you are doing something wrong. Sure, we dont know what exactly you are doing in your games but you mentioned flankers killing you as mercy so that could indicate bad positioning. I have had many amazing and friendly players in bronze too when I was there. But you should not expect help from your team mates if you are below high plat/diamond. If you will expect that, you will die, a lot because of that. Its just my experience while I was climbing with support from bronze.
Yes because they are bronze, exactly. But as I said its not better higher. People will start to care about others high plat+. Sure not everyone is like that, but majority is. Personal experience. People do act in certain ways in different ranks. Why should I not say that, its not allowed to say true and be honest in this age anymore?
Actualy they are not. I am not saying I was only factor that mattered while they climbed, but my help opened their eyes in many cases and they used tips I gave them and climbed.
I have been in amazing low ranked games too, in game where people cooperated way above their elo but these games were not that often. Level of cooperating is better and better the higher you will go in ranks.
No, according to me, you cant expect that from your team mates, try to play in a way that you will not need their help too much. I was climbing as Mercy from bronze to high plat and am talking about my personal experience after many games. But there are exceptions sure, I am one of them. If I see someone who need help and helping is in my power, I do it. I do believe majority of players who play support are doing it on other roles too, because its normal for them on their support role. But others will usualy ignore you.
Wish it would have been just 2-2-2 enforced… I dont like seperate SR’s, and things were alright with people flexing
it will not increase queue times because alot of “flex” players and dps horny pew pew will go there. loosing some dps in the RQ do not raise the queue times
the statement quoted above seems to indicate (to me) that the only players who will play Freedom queue (if it existed) would be dps players
this simply isnt the case
no its not the case. some will go there occasionally just a break from 2-2-2, but they will not play there as much. the problem will be to actualy have a population big enough in every rank that actualy are online playing. Maybe the ± SR range would have to be alot bigger or you would have insane queue time on it, and that again making very unfair matches and more stomping than it used to be before RQ. For the dps that would still stick to the RQ ladder they would have less queue times because “listen now this is only imo and i dont want your usual statement that you have seen no bla bla bla bla ! yeah you know what i mean” i think majority of the tank main and support mains would stick to the RQ ladder and that leaves mainly the dps one tricks and “flexers” that have the urge for the freedom to swap roles midgame playing the most on the classic ladder.
Yes i could be wrong but i think this make the most sense.
I dont see it as making sense at all, personally
Players who like/prefer Freedom cross all 3 roles
I myself am a support main, for example, and I vastly prefer Freedom Queue over Forced Queue
Many other tank and support mains have stated the same in these forums