I know I am about 4 years too late, but please remove hidden career profiles in Overwatch 2. I should be able to see the heroes that my teammates are most comfortable on and build a comp around them. I should be able to see if the Ball jumping in and dying is trying to derank.
Sure people will be toxic if they can see you’re getting crushed in comp, but people are already toxic. People will always find a way to flame each other. Life before hidden profiles was beautiful. Life was flourishing. You added hidden profiles and now look at the world. Catastrophe. Coincidence? I think not.
Even if profiles weren’t privated, you wouldn’t know this. All you’d see is time spent and context-less metrics.
You can probably assume someone is throwing if they are gold or higher and throwing themselves off cliffs. You don’t need a profile for this. Throwing to drastically fall is obvious.
Sure people will commit more crimes if we remove laws, but some people will commit crimes anyway, whats the point?
Toxicity reports literally reduced once private profiles were introduced.
Nah, not an accurate translation at all. Back when people were forced to show profiles, I never once flamed them or demanded they pick a hero. I usually flex on my role. If I see that there is a one-trick Rein on my team, regardless of win rate, I will not pick Rein. I am most likely more comfortable than they are flexing, so I will. Not everyone feels comfortable speaking up or asking you to swap off, so they may be forced onto a hero they are not good with in comp. It genuinely has nothing to do with wanting to be toxic to my team, but go off with your pompous assumptions.
The reason why it was done away with in the first place was because it promoted smurff accounts.
Tactical picks were an issue because we already knew what the player was going to play, and then we were ready to counter them during a competitive match. With this dynamic. It allows for the enemy team to have a surprise, and shift their tactics.
It also created toxic rifts because then players were expected to play their best Hero picks on that account, and then the constant abuse of people being “one tricks” was a major issue. So today. We don’t have the level of toxicity we use to.
I think this would be a phenomenally bad idea given that imo Private Profiles are one of the three best things ever added to OW, right after maps and heroes
That’s a huge cap right there. You can’t actually be serious about this. You can like them, fine. But one of the best features after maps and heroes? Yeah, ok
I keep my profile public always and trust me, public profiles are used maliciously more often then they are used beneficially
Majority of the time people who abuse someones profile are also locked behind private profiles which is just hypocritical
I’ve been abused in-game for my profile, I’ve had people talk trash on the forums for the same thing, the other day I had a guy comment about my Lucio winrate, yet I had a mere 20 minutes with Lucio this season, obviously if I don’t win the first couple of games my winrate is going to be super low. This guy wasn’t being toxic but it just further showcases that public profiles aren’t being used properly
At most maybe they could show your top 3 played heroes when you hover over someone in-game but otherwise it should be a choice, and they should also remove borders/ranks while they’re at it as they’re just another tool for toxicity
Same here. Public profiles gave out so much useful info that in many games tuning just my own hero pick based on that was more than often highly beneficial. Especially when you knew someone was playing a hero they weren’t really good at so you could play around that better by compensating a bit for lack of damage or healing or space for that matter. It was especially good with open formats
Also when it comes to toxicity being reduced, I haven’t seen anything towards that. Players still trash talk bad players based on their performance even if they have hidden profiles
According to Blizzard Entertainments research scientist reports dropped by 40% after the implementation of endorsements and private profiles.
And I will say I haven’t seen anywhere near the amount of profile toxicity as before. It’s weird to me that people want to return to the time where people would regularly throw themselves off the grand canyon because their teammate didn’t pick their most played hero or god forbid a Mercy main queued as a DPS.
Nah, and there is no way for you to know this without knowing me. Every game I am in, I am in the voice channel giving comms to the best of my ability, working with people who will not give me any information. Career profiles do give out decent enough general info so that you can figure out what people prefer to play.
Anyone can look at a stat sheet and see what someone is good at playing and what they spend the most time playing. It’s not rocket science. I think removing it makes sense in the context of no role queue, because DPS players and Mercy mains would get flamed for not swapping. With role queue there is zero reason for hidden career profiles.
Legit had a teammate earlier today that sparked this post’s idea. I was playing Reinhardt and asked my teammate what he would like to play to which I got zero response. After the first round, I checked his profile and who would have guessed, he was a Rein only player. I swapped off, he picked Reinhardt and we ended up winning the game all because this player’s profile was not privated. How would I have gotten this information otherwise? I don’t use this information to flame people. I have been an avid Overwatch fan since the trailer and I have played since day 1 of open beta. I want the game to be the best it can be.
The thing is in that scenario YOU are the one making a “pompous assumption.”
Say someone starts off a new season, and for their first few games they decide to play Rein for whatever reason, usually either because they’re filling around a teammate’s pick, or they just sorta feel like it.
Now they get in a game woth you, and you see they’ve only been playing Rein recently. Since you lack context, it’s natural to think they’re trying to one trick him, and you pick around that assumption. That then leads to them feeling the need to fill based on your pick, putting more time on Rein and only cementing the assumption for future games and the cycle continues.
This is a very real trap many players fell into when both sides tried to be considerate without actually speaking up, and the only way to break out of it is to be selfish, which just leads to the “bad team comp” and “omg our OTP is throwing” comments.
I genuinely believe some people are just trying to be nice, but I promise you it doesn’t work out if you try to take initiative without communication, hence why everyone says to just ask or simply wait for them to pick.