What if they pick heroes based on what others picked? Even if its not their best hero?
This answers totally help no one, no offense mate. Its just like “Hey dude, just ask” … like really? Asking a dude about their stats/profile when they have a Hidden Profile on purpose?
Not everyone is even on VC or even on chat. That doesnt work.
There is a difference between picking to complement a single teammate and all 5 teammates essentially picking for you.
Also have to consider the liberty one has in this. Again, if you pick around a teammate, that’s your choice. You can choose to not do so, or swap later if you feel like it. Worst case scenario, people have to give you a chance before making a comment about it not working. But if your teammates think you can only play one hero, you can bet they’re going to flame you the moment you try to play anything different.
Which brings up qnother point. Say you see they’ve picked someone that isn’t their most optimal hero (in your eyes). Then what? Are you going to try to “convince” them to swap to what you deem appropriate for them, regardless of team comp? All that happens here is someone ends up upset, which will likely effect their gameplay.
And no matter what, there was an objective and noticeable drop in toxicity with private profiles. This is a fact. We shouldn’t revert that just because you don’t feel like waiting an extra 10 seconds or trusting the people you’re stuck with anyways.
I have a private profile and yet I’m always in chat, and if someone asks me I’m generally willing to answer.
Again, the whole point is that you shouldn’t be making assumptions, something you are still doing.
Hence why I normally go with the “just wait and see” route. The only time this isn’t reliable is if all 6 teammates are waiting for each other, at which point you need to just know when to draw the line and just pick what you want.
Ehm no thanks, let’s keep them so people doesn’t have to end up getting attacked by toxic players.
No one needs to have their profile public if they don’t feel comfortable doing so, just because the amout of playtime of my heroes i’ve been called so many toxic things and gotten attacked.
It’s not fun at all.
If you really want to know just ask and they might tell you, no need to have your profile public.
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Nah i am good kiddo. Dont need people to go youre x level and x rank you are bad… ill be keeping my private profile thanks
This is a team game buddy, theres a lot of times that you or many other players will have to play around their team or someone of their team. Not knowing what the other dudes are playing or are better at IS a detriment and logistically, its impossible to get involved in a 5min conversation in the lobby.
Looking at 1-2 profiles and adjusting your pick is 4000% faster and more effective and again, profiles dont lie. This is just a FACT.
You are going to have to provide evidence of that because as a FACT, Private Profiles dont reduce toxicity at all, they just take 1 reason out of 2035 available to flame someone. They dont prevent anyone that truly wants to flame someone.
Also its not 10 secs at all, its more like 30 and thats counting the other person responds or is on VC which is a HUGE stretch. Again, this is empirically true.
Quite rich to tell me I am making assumptions when with this sentence you are literally assuming that everyone is like you.
Also its hard not to make assumptions with people that hide their stats and usually are not responding via chat or VC. Like making assumptions is literally all you can do, because you dont have stats to verify or crosscheck anything 
Might as well go with the “just play whatever and dont care about the team, enemy or comp/map at all”. Again, not helping anyone. That is worse than having stats to rely on.
Again - telling it like it is 
But what if that game they dont pick that, are you going to tell them to do so because of profile carrier?
Nah I agree. Its one of my favorite features they added. I have a lot of hours on mercy due to grouping with friends who wanted me on her while they dps/tank.
I actually prefer dpsing or playing Ana in comp. Before hidden profiles almost every comp game was me getting messages demanding I swap, and if anything went wrong it was my fault for being a “Mercy one trick on Mccree” despite me having a ton of hours on Mccree too.
If people wanna know what I can play, they can ask. None of that flame in chat until I swap nonsense it used to be.
I imagine the hero they’re most comfortable on is the hero they select to play.
You don’t need to remove private profiles to see that.
I think the OW community has had enough of "Why are you playing X hero when you main Y "
I personally have an absolute ton of hours in zarya but I play every single hero in the game. I don’t need someone judging me based on the hours on my profile.
My pompous assumption statement was taken out of context. Insinuating that I am being disingenuous when I am most certainly not is just taking the moral high ground and trying to put me in a lower position in a moral situation. You can like or dislike the system, I do not care. I just think the game was better before hidden profiles were a thing.
No.
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Good on you for sticking with it, but I can not imagine hiding my stats being my favorite feature of the game.
Thank you for your valuable insight
Why are private profiles still an “issue?”
you’re whole heartedly welcome <3
They wanna see your stats to flame you for your main or do rank shaming.
I’ve seen enough flame towards Mercy mains with public profiles to not do the same.
My friend… once my public profile showed 300 h on Reaper , 200 on Sombra
I let you imagine wich kind ot things I readed in team chat lol
i don’t like priv profiles but if there going to keep it atleast put a lock next to their name or somewhere so we don’t bother checking then it comes out private
this is the first smart thing I read when it come to this matter. Ye that can be a good qol for those ‘‘perverts’’ looking profiles lol
I feel for Sombra mains, seems like everyone from the balancing team to the enemies to their team hates them
But you do know what they’re playing… When they pick their hero.
You seem to be treating this as if everyone else is playing Mystery Heroes or as if you’re some sort of self appointed coach in charge of picking everyone else’s picks.
This is a team game, so there has to be a level of trust amongst teammates. Very rarely will a teammate pick someone they are not confident on, especially when you give them the option to choose for themselves. In all honesty, what you would want does typically line up with what they pick anyways, but the difference its their choice to choose what they play and what they feel is best.
Demanding you get to dictate their play based on your own opinion of their stats is quite literally the opposite of being a team player. If you can’t understand the difference between “Are you comfortable playing Rein” and “I’m playing Zarya, you need to go Rein” then that’s on you.
Ever hear the saying “a half truth is a full lie”?
It means even if you’re given technically true information, if the lack of context causes you to make a false assumption, its as good as a straight up lie.
This is what profiles can and did do, and was my entire point originally. You don’t know why they have certain hours on certain heroes, and I very much doubt you’re going in depth for all of the individual stats either. Just probably looking at most played, maybe a winrate or two. This information lacks context and can easily lead you to the wrong assumption. You don’t know that they want to play Mercy but had to fill with Ana a few times. You can’t tell that they’re not a half bad Rein, but a few unlucky games tanked their winrate.
You’re not looking for what they’d like to play, you’re looking for what you’re comfortable dictating to them. Again, solid difference.
Jeez, something tells me I may have annoyed you by mentioning facts…
Anyways, this is from roughly a week after private profiles went live:
Now, obviously on the flip side of this, you have over 70% of instances that private profiles didn’t effect because, like you said, these people would just find another reason. But that doesn’t change the fact that at least some portion of the remaining confrontations had their the main driver in someone getting upset being purely based on what they saw in profiles and how the players who actually owned them disagreed with their teammates “suggestions.”
If you have a reputable source that can say otherwise and prove that there was objectively no change in player behaviour, I’d love to see it, but until then it’d be good to recognize the difference between a legitimate fact and a personal, albeit logical, assumption.
I really was not expecting you to take that literally.
God forbid you wait 30 seconds when the hero select + setup phases run double, sometimes triple that depending on the map.
Again, no one is expecting you to get in a full on “5 minute conversation” with anyone. I quite literally said multiple times that you don’t need to say anything. Just wait the “30 seconds” and see what your teammate picks, then pick around them. In my experience, ~80% of the time you’ll still have plenty of time to run to wherever you need to so you can just stand around emoting while you wait for the match to start like you would anyways.
The few remaining times, they’re either AFK or trying to be just as nice as you are, in which case, again, it’s important to have the line set for yourself to know when you need to just go ahead and pick so they can play around you. It’s seriously not that hard.
I don’t believe I ever said that?
Sometimes people don’t respond. I get that. My point is that if you were to see me in game, you wouldn’t even try to ask, then blame me for “being that type of person”.
So picking your hero based on what your teammates are playing literally so you have a coherent team comp is the same as not caring about team comp?
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I mean, sure bud. If you want to believe that, I can’t dig you out of that hole.