What in game things indicate he is op?
Coz rein legit has had the same stats in goats and he was never touched
coz he wasnt op.
Is he op rn? why? what does he do thats op? does his weakness get covered easily? how? is it by him or is it by SOMEONE ELSE?
If it is someone else THEN WHY IS HE OP? he isnt op.
its a synergy thats op and should be looked at
He legit recieved two buffs and one nerf.
How was he buffed too much?
Yes actually that what it means
Orisa was butchered.
Her shield was nerfed and her fortify was buffed making her depend on fortify and halt to get anything done
Those got nerfed and she never recieved anything to compensate for her shield
Sigma was deleted basically by making his ult a death sentence and keep his most deadly counter that is overtuned rn (mei) up without any nerfs. legitimately if you nerf mei, He legit becomes better and he can do alot again be up there.
there is legit only 3 main tanks and 2 were nerfed to the ground while One survived. If you want to nerf him What compensation buff does he recieve or do you want to butcher him like the other two main tanks to uselessness levels? if so get read to have Zero main tank players after coz thats what will happen.
Rein has been a living pinball for literally the whole game.
Rein now is a cc and bullet sponge.
Rein players such as myself whenever we play him we dont feel like we destroy by just existing. we dont feel like we are basically making the enemy tanks switch to the same we are on because we are overpowered.
Thats why alot of rein mains get triggered when someone say Rein is as overtuned as Orisa was. He was never at her state and he isnt at her state rn.
He is balanced, The other main tanks were nerfed with no compensation.
Shield nerfs and kit nerfs with zero buffs.
Literally orisa a buff to her shield makes her a viable pick and not need sigma
Sigma buff to his shield and a nerf to mei Makes him a viable pick.
Rein is balanced and not as over tuned as orisa.
What ever people that “crucified you” (big word). Take my apology instead.
this is our point of view.
I dont think that’s true. Brig got off a max of 4 stuns by my count; doom managed to CC rein 8 times (counting both punch and uppercut.) Plus given the fact that Brigs shield bash now is blocked by barriers and is on a 7 sec cooldown, while Dooms punch remains unaffected; I would definitely say Doom is still a problem. Removing, or hell, even toning back reins cc reduction would create a nightmare scenario for him if the enemy dared pick Doomfist.
That’s exactly how the game works, for something to be meta in Overwatch, something has to be thrown in the trash. This is why there will never me a moment where you can say “that’s it guys, this game is finally balanced”.
His anti boop stuff made him overtuned. I think they should undo that. They should also fix his ult. It’s pretty bs. Sometimes it gets people round corners and people flying.
I know this isn’t right, but I prefer a slightly OP Rein any day over orisa or Sigma. He’s just more fun to play with/as/against imo. In his metas most heroes have a chance to be played. Double shield and dive not so much. He encourages a brawl style that I find more fun and engaging, I love watching two reins try to psych each other out for a shatter, I love the massive playstyles differences between a defensive and offensive Rein, etc.
I know that’s not fair to say, I have a friend who will only play orisa out of the tanks and he is bummed, though he has taken a liking to d.va now at least. I just find ranged anchor tank play really static and boring.
He has insane cc reduction and the shield movement speed far outweighs the minor nerf the shield got, the whole point for rein is to move his team with his shield. Buffing the movement speed while reducing it´s health is not a nerf at all, in fact the change they made is universally considered a huge buff to him overall, since he can only do most of his interactions outside of the team moving, in melee as well.
They should have never buffed rein, before they fixed Orisa and Sigma.
The whole issue with Orisa, was that she got power creept during GOATS to compete, 2-2-2 stopped GOATS, now Orisa and Hog comps were OP, because of many of their buffs. Then Sigma got released as a completely new and OP shield tank and to this day still running extra shields had no downside, which is the flaw with double shield.
Rein was buffed during these times to “Bring him into a better spot”.
The exact same thing has happened to D.va, both him and her saw play and good stats, just before double shield really kicked in, there was no need to buffing any tanks, before you fixed Orisa/Sigma.
All it has led to is the new tanks, that got buffed are taking back over again…
There’s a bit of peripheral discussion about Orisa here, and I just want to say I think it would have been interesting if she had been added to the game without a shield and just had better/more frequent fortify. Right now she makes one of three shielding tanks (I suppose four if you really want to include Winston) but Roadhog is the only bruiser.
well, of course he’ll be overtuned when 3 out of 4 main tanks are unusable.
Orisa was murdered, Winston needs dive to work and Hammond has been instantly nerfed the moment rein-ball was mildly popular.
Yes, let’s keep nerfing tanks, next you’ll complain about whatever other tank becomes meta.
topics like these shatter my hope of ever having a vaguely intelligent discussion on the forums.
People barely even know what main tank means and want to discuss tank balance