The problem with reinhardt is the eartnshatter. Basically none except another reinhardt can counter it. I hope they will rimove 1 sec cd from sigma barrier, make me very sad knowing that enemy rain will use ultimate in a few second and i can’t do nothing to protect my team.
Orisa and a well placed Sigma shield can blow it. Plus stuns neutralizes the ULT
Grey your bias is showing.
Shh… shh… it’s fine… Nobody likes Mei except Mei players.
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Rein’s not overtuned, he’s just back to the way he was before Goats, except even weaker. You people played with better for several seasons. If you ask me his steadfast buff should be gone, it makes Whole Hog literally instant death unless you’re somehow saved by a stun or that 1% of walls, and anyone who’s mastered Rein knows exactly how to handle stuns/boops and CC. That’s your job after all, you take the hits so your squishies don’t have to.
If anything his new playstyle is embarassing and braindead, who wants to play a giant hammer-swinging crusader who has to hide behind walls for most of the game regening shield after not hardly 5 seconds out in the open or go full aggro to pad the time for their shield? This is utterly disrespectful to him and i’m disgusted Blizz would support a playstyle like this in not just him, but other tanks too. We’re basically all Winston now.
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He’s definitely playing different than when he was in GOATS. He’s able to be more aggressive now.
I think he’s fine. The real problem is we now don’t have much counterplay for shatter now that shields are so weak there are big openings he can abuse
That’s the problem though, Rein’s supposed to be about balancing defense and offense, but he can hardly defense anymore and that leaves him with mostly offense. The range of scope for Rein play is much smaller. It’s also going to speed up fights, AGAIN.
I find unless they have a lot of shield break, that I while do block less trash damage, I still block quite a lot. I haven’t had much issue defending my team from the important stuff.
I don’t understand why everyone thinks Rein is the best tank now. Maybe it’s a solo queue thing, but in group queue… Orisa can do everything Rein can (outside of ult), but better.
Seriously unless the enemy team is giving you free slams, or you’re playing a control map where swinging his hammer is going to get great value consistently throughout the match, I see no reason to pick him over Orisa.
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Overtuned compared to what?
Winston? Yeah, but every tank is by that measure.
Overtuned by Orisa standards? Heck no, Orisa is stronger than before.
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What is this logic? Is there a limit for how many heroes can be complained about at a time? OP wanted to talk about Reinhardt, not other heroes. If they have a problem with Rein, it’s their right to complain about Rein lol. You are more than free to make a thread about any of those other heroes if you want!
You literally have Jeff Kaplan saying that the vast majority can’t really do Dive.
And we just got out of a boring meta that was basically a Bunker meta.
Kinda process of elimination that Deathball is what the game should be centered on.
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Orisa is about the same as before. Reinhardt is better as an individual hero, imo. Orisa might synergize better with the current popular healer/dps picks but as individuals, Rein is better imo.
I would buff up other options over nerfing him. D.va could use some major buffs, winston might need a few tiny ones. orisa and sigma feel ok rn, but nerfs to tank busters (or just meta dps, cause that’s what they are.) would help the underperforming tank roster.
No, he’s worth complaining about right now, his buffs made him a must pick tank on ladder, and people will report you for throwing if you don’t pick him. Reinhardt’s changes were a huge mistake, unlike Orisa and Sigma his shield isn’t in a 150 damage increment for Roadhog’s M2, and his barrier still regenerates at 200hp/s despite the mitigation nerf to 1,600hp. Sigma’s shield regenerates at 120, down from 150, so Reinhardt’s nerf doesn’t even scale properly respectively.
On top of that his knockback buff lowered made CC useless against him and lowered his skill floor, a feature they removed from D.va and Orisa already, so now he can just walk across Lijiang Bridge or Ilios Well without a care in the world. Oh, and his speed increase and knoclback resistance combined are having an adverse affect on him generating Earth Shatter faster in a metagame where shields are less present … yay …
Reinhardt needs at least 4 nerfs, Shield to 1,500 health, Shield Regen to 150hps, knockback resistance tied to his shield being up and a 10% increase to Earthshatter’s ultimate cost at a minimum.
Tanking sucks right now, the barrier changes are enough nonsense to deal with but the easiest tank om the roster being a must pick because he’s the only viable main tank is borring as hell. Take me now sweet Reaper, your health pack awaits …
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I agree he could use some downtuning but what you listed would completely wreck him as a hero. That’s way too much.
Just another case of the nail that sticks out.
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He also said that goats was barely played on ladder and yet they had to go to the ends of the earth to shut it down.
And what someone finds boring is subjective.
How? 100hp off of shields and 50hps off of regen is nothing compared to what Sigma got, and that passive is literally stupid proof compared to the old Orisa/D.va bug that could at least be played around whenever they weren’t firing. Reinhardt gets way too much of a pass, because the community wants tanks to have to play the good little shield bot. I don’t know if those changes would even be enough honestly, as he is you so obviously have to pick him it’s nuts.