I think you underestimate the power of doing 67% more damage to armor, having self heals vs Armor halfway between Live and PTR, and having excellent mobility and escape.
Thatâs why is so critical that Reaper have a strong approach tool to get into his effective range, and then be able to get away without dying.
Thatâs a flanker design, but blizzard wants him as a tank buster
Mobility is king in high tiers, if you havenât noticed.
And if Reaper canât get into his effective range without feeding, then heâs kinda useless.
(Unless the entire team pockets him to get into position).
Either way, higher ranks are much better at kiting than lower ranks.
Thatâs blizzards thought process. You pick Reaper against goats and the enemy can swap to range to counter the reaper. They donât want Reaper to be a generalist who is useful in any situation
Flip that around.
Whatâs the point of buffing Reaper to counter GOATs, if you basically need a GOATs comp with one substitution to support him against GOATs?
đ [Reaper] Will he become a GOAT?
It entirely defeats the purpose of doing a buff.
You can run Sombra Reaper to counter it.
I think your proposed changes would actually be worse for the low and high ranks. Buffing shadowstep, but what counters it (and still would) is awareness.
And Reaper would also be way worse at fighting tanks than other tank busters.
Buffing the lifesteal was a great idea, now Reapers can finally be secure within their own range if theyâre fighting a tank. Considering how difficult it is for Reaper to get close, thatâs fair. It also buffs his ultimate, which was terrible before.
Still sounds a lot like babysitting Reaper into he gets into an effective range.
Heâd still need a Rein and a Lucio at a minimum, in addition to that.
Yeah but thatâs no longer goats because you neither run triple tank nor triple support
It would make it easy easier to get close, heâd get more lifesteal vs Armor about halfway between Live and PTR, and do 67% more damage vs Armor instead of only 33% more. And after all of that, he could get away scottfree as long as he has a friendly tank to teleport to, or has killed all nearby enemies.
Thing is, how much Healing does Reaper get when shooting a Rein/Zarya/Dva shield?
How much HP does he get when stunned?
Even with your buffs, shadow step would just be a repositioning tool, you canât engage with it or anything, itâs too loud.
Teams would hear the reaper coming a mile away, and coordinated ones would delete the Reaper for it.
Being able to quickly kill a tank and then teleport away would have been good but itâs not practical. Your changes wouldnât transform reaper into a dive hero, his best bet would still be staying with his team for the whole maneuver.
Only in uncoordinated ranks would Reapers have a chance of pulling of your strat, and it would just be a Reaper teleporting away from his team all game, falling behind the tank of choice, killing said tank without him being able to save himself anyway, and then teleporting away so the enemy canât even try to punish him.
- Reaper moves forward at a decent speed with Wraith.
- And hero that goes in by themselves would get deleted.
- Nearly, every other hero viable in high tier isnât reliant on their team to get into their effective attack range.
He still is counterable, but you have little room for error. It wont be just pick Reaper and you automatically win.
Blizz want tank players to fear reaper in his small range, I guess the 50% heal buff is actually doing this, he still has no range and he will die if you focus on him.
Itâs also his only protection.
Not ptr Reaper.
Well this one is, heâs a bruiser dps afterall.
Yup. I was scratching my head at this change. I mean, I do think GM players will be able to utilize this on several maps but overall heâs still going to get mowed down by snipers.
I mean, didnât Jeff recently do an interview where he even said a majority of the player base doesnât even experience goats? Buffing him for a rank that doesnât have the problem and where Reaper is actually good? Seems like a nightmare for lower ranks.
Thatâs why heâs be completely immune to damage on the first half of ShadowStepâŚ
The second half would be risky, but if the enemy doesnât have line of sight, range, or you teleport to a teammate, youâd be fine.
Reaper will still succeed in high ranks because thatâs where GOATS is run the most, but he will be downright oppressive in gold and below. He will require stuns and team focus fire to kill, but no one under 3k SR is getting consistent coordination like that without a stack. Plats will just have better aim than golds.