Post mercy meta paranoia

“She has a high pickrate, she’s fine.”
There are 6 supports, out of those there are 5 healers. Moira, Ana and Mercy are the main healers, and out of those three Moira and Ana are the most viable.

“She’s not underpowered or op”

No, she isn’t. But hear me out here: Being glued to the ground for near 2 seconds? Valkyrie isn’t as awful an ult as some, but honestly? Look at rally. Rally is what Valk should have been. But instead, it’s used for cleanup and escape - even then, someone with a half decent shot can pick you right out of the air due to hitbox increase.

That’s understandable as it’s skill based for the most part, but have you ever been solo-coalescence-d out of the air? Not fun.

Valkyrie can be useful, but it’s a little tiring doing the same thing over and over - press Q. press space. press M1. press M2 if you have another healer. hide if you’re being focused. ult over.

I think if Mercy had had this kit from the beginning, we wouldn’t complain as much. But we know what it’s like to be able to have more of an impact, to have a better kit. It’s like going from a high end home to a run-down shack. Once you downgrade, you miss what was better. But if you never knew, there is nothing to miss.

Mass rez had its problems, we all know that. But as I say time and time again, there is one fundamental flaw: resurrect can not be properly balanced and enjoyable for both parties while it is on a cooldown - it’s too powerful of an ability.

Current rez feels okay for enemy, but for the mercy player and their teammates, it feels… bad. It’s sluggish, it’s a chore, etc etc etc. You’ve all heard this before. And we know how big daddy jeff is about things that feel bad, apparently.

Insta rez/shorter CD rez/etc felt a bit better, but it promoted selfish play. Oh, your resurrect is off CD? Here, let me just overextend into the enemy and die - it doesn’t matter, you have an eraser as your E! - what’s worse is that with the current state of her E, that’s basically a death sentence to the Mercy unless you’re being babysat or someone’s distracting the enemy.

“Hey, Widow, want a free shot!?”

And let me state something - I’d bet that most people who are against anything for Mercy that isn’t her current state only focus on the enemy. How many of you get team wiped and wonder to yourselves, “Man, imagine if Mercy could come in and rez us all?” - as a Mercy, I’ve thought that countless times. Man, I wish I could bring my team back so we could have another shot at winning.

Let me repeat - resurrect is not able to be balanced on a 30 second cooldown. it’s either not fun for the mercy and their team, it’s not fun for the enemy, or it’s not fun for either.

Resurrect has to be - put as an ability with charge, reverted to ultimate with balance tweaks or simply removed. I highly doubt the last option will happen, but if it has to then so be it. I’d rather have a new ability that’s balanced and enjoyable, but the sad thing is that it’d retcon a lot of the lore.

And lastly, here’s some advice since people can’t grasp this even though it’s such a simple solution - learn to actually use an ult for team wipe after the rez. stop complaining you can’t kill the mercy. stop wasting 4-6 ults at once when you know she’s alive. it is not rocket science.

If it’s so easy to get that 3-5 man kill, how come it’s suddenly so hard once Mercy rezzes? They’re still for a couple frames, throw in a D.Va bomb or a RIP-Tire while they’re glowing. Easy.

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Okay fine… so she had a decent pickrate and was better… then the hero who even now is still almost universally believed to be underpowered?

Frick why did we start talking about this I"m confused now. Did I get sucked into arguing viability or something?

If they want to make Mercy perfect, they need to remove Rez completely. Not as an ult, not an ability. Just gone.

Give her a new E ability which flows and compliments her kit. Under 12 second cooldown, instant cast, long-medium range. Something like a Burst Heal + Cleanse, damage resistance buff, etc.

Shortern Valkyrie to 12 seconds, buff the main healing beam from 60 HPS to 100 HPS and each chain beam to 80 HPS.

EDIT: idk why this is a reply to you Aqua, I meant this as a general post, I am sorry.

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OWL is the worst. I hate every bit of it.

But why do you think that she’s underpowered? And why do you think that it’s universally?

And we started arguing because someone said that mercy prerework didn’t see any ladder usage in high ranks, which I said that was wrong

Patience is a virtue. I’m sure most of the community wanted nerfs sooner rather than later when she came out.

Here the idea for a rework I presented a while ago that I think can appeal to everyone.

E ability is now
Angel’s Cry
10 second cooldown melee range ability
If targeting a dead teammate it slices 2 seconds off of the spawn time
If used ona. Living ally it gives 2 seconds of 50% damage reduction.

Valkyrie
Duration reduced to 8 seconds
Merge the beams into one
Reduce the effectiveness of the chain beams by 60%
Allow the pistol to be used at the same time
Buff Angel’s Cry to now rezzurect or provide outright immunity.

Does not effect Angel’s cry cooldown in any way.

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I see a floudnering pickrate and a lot of her mains complaining about things that are very much reasonable, such as how hard she’s countered by winston and d’va merely existing comapred to every other healer in the game. And her own lack of self sustain only worse then Zenyatta the “i can almost one shot flankers with a great shot”

That’s actually quite an interesting idea…

I still want divine palm or crystal aegis (though rather than aegis giving Aurel/Mercy “energy” it heals all allies in its blast radius) darn it :^(

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This is where you stop having any credibility. Not as a mercy. You obviously have lots of experience playing mercy.

But as a game designer, or for having any kind of sense for balance.

I mean, it’s just a false statement. There’s no way it could be true. When you hit Q, Mercy gains abilities that she does not otherwise have. It doesn’t remove anything she can normally do, which means it’s a net gain.

There is no way any kind of net gain can help you lose. It’s not how reality works.

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Don’t get rid of rez.

I didn’t, It’s part of valkyrie

Ah, sorry, I thought that you were talking about pre-rework Mercy and not Ana

Yeah, dive disrupts her. But I don’t think that she’s objectively underpowered. If a meta shift happens, she should see plenty of viability.

And as for the prior post, her winrate was still higher than Lucio if I recall correctly. I have that data too, it just isn’t uploaded. So it’s not like she was only good in comparison to someone who was “bad”. I think she was simply “good”

I really dont want another rework though just some buffs.

She doesn’t need buffs. She’s in a good place. Even if you want her to be more “fun” it has to be done without buffing.

Gives the enemy free ult charge.

200 damage at most doesn’t count as any form of ult feeding.

Unless you want to apply it to every character, because technically anyone in range of an enemy is feeding ult charge. :thinking:

Good thing it also gives the entire team more ult charge through damage boost.

1 instant rez. Thats literally it.