Poor Match Quality + Inaccurate/Poor MMR

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I truly, truly, truly, continued to be amazed by how god awful the matchmaking is currently. Let me start by saying, I’m no godtier player, and I admit my faults when they happen, I’m maybe a little/moderately better than the average player. But I am genuinely astonished at the players Overwatch thinks I deserve to play with.

I’ve been having matches with my team mates getting 0 kills, 10+ deaths and I’M supposed to figure out how I’M supposed to be better and carry that?

Let it be known, I have games saved/recorded that are losses because they were genuinely so fun and enjoyable and felt like real human players/interactions with common sense and logic; but this is a rare occurrence.

When my teammates are asking “what’s LOS” “what is kiting”;
It makes me worry for the matchmaking system lol. I am CONSTANTLY thinking about target prio, positioning, ult tracking/usage, capitalizing on space/openings etc. How is this who I’ve been paired with?

I don’t know if I’m getting new players or what, but I’ve been playing flex role since OW1 Beta with the same account. I basically solo queue only, and it feels miserable as **** lately.

Not that this means much; but I’m endorsement level 5 and it’s def NOT cuz im super nice, (this game triggers me internally eternally lol) I think I got it from game smarts, IGL’ing and OCCASIONAL niceness/fun interactions xd

It would be nice to be matched with/against other ppl who play similarly; with regard and mindfulness for their team/OBJ/win conditions. I do want to be challenged and grow my skills.

I just want to play matches with players who collaborate and work with their team instead of acting like its Call Of Duty and utilizing the spawn room to go for kills, rinse and repeat. They act like literal bots; press W into a 1v5, wait for respawn to go again.

Plus, on the flip hand, it’s not even remotely rewarding to win against a team that got a total of 1 kill for the whole match. (Stats included in this post are from real teammates I’ve played v__v In a good game, I usually have no deaths/1 and/or 20+elims + lots of assists. My TM in these recent times; 0-8 tank, supps w the most kills, 13+ deaths dps)

I want quality matchmaking instead of whatever this is.
Something needs to be adjusted.

Srry for muh edits, trying to be intentional and concise w/ words/concepts but sucking at it d:

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MM is exactly why i’m taking break until next season and eventually uninstall by end of the year. I’m sick of this MM that keep matching me with new players or against them. I would say the match quality is atrocious. If this keep going on. Many will just quit and it doesn’t matter how much content they give us if they keep giving us awful matches.

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I have been matched with GM challengers a lot lately and im a gold scrub.

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Same here. Open queue placed me in Bronze 3, so I’ve been playing that instead. It’s like smurfing. It’s so easy, lol. I’m climbing out, but I’m enjoying it while it lasts.

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I completely agree with this. Good awful matchmaking by no stretch either am I a super great player but im not a terrible player either. Nothing about matchmaking feels balanced and everyday im inches closer to never playing this game again

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  1. There are no enough players to make good matches
  2. Avarage player level sucks , really the regular player level is horrible
  3. 4 Hour level penalty you have less players
  4. Matchmaking just care about giving fast matches not caring too much about “balance”

There you have the mess now but people are gonna to say there is not a problem while everyone is leaving this game

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You assume they are actually new players? Not just players who have made new accounts? If I was new I would stay as far away from this game as possible.

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This proves the matchmaking is working as intended acording to some forum users…

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“it just means your MMR became detached from your SR”

is the one I like, followed immediately by “SR is just a visual of your MMR.”

or “they don’t have to be a GM challenger on the same role” - but you if you’re in gold, and youre meeting up against GM challenger on an off role, they’re supposed to be high diamond or masters, not gold or silver. There is some transfer of skills between roles.

The matchmaker has bugs just like anything else, because we can’t see them, we can’t report them to the proper devs.

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Is this match making issues or rank system problem. I ranked a new account just for fun to see what I could get went 50-22 for pre comp qualifications. I ranked support went 7-3 got diamond 4. When I ranked DPS I went 8-2 and it placed me gold 3 . Went positive in 80 percent of the matches and had decent damage. Placements prediction never went above gold 2 for did on support it’s was plat 2 to diamond 3 for predictions.

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If you want to know just how messed up the matchmaker really is, find a group of Overwatch players who range from Bronze 5 to Top 500. Run scrims with them. Watch as they create teams of equal measure (of course being a mix of Bronze 5 to Top 500), and see how much you enjoy those matches.

It’s a completely different and wonderful experience and whoever decided not to pursue that as a valid way to play the game certainly overlooked something that could be soooo refreshing to the title.

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This is just old school no matchmaking at all. I actually miss when games didn’t have matchmaking. It used to be cool to see some one in your lobby that you knew would 100 percent stomp you in the ground (bro you would never guess who I played with or against type stuff). These can be fun for sure.

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Next season you can group with people without rank restrictions so sounds like blizzard is giving you what you want.

It’ll be interesting to see what the queue times for those groups will be, at least.

Regardless, in qp you do get those games at times where the lobby range is super wide on both sides (but still somewhat balanced) - they can be quite funny matches. At least in occasion.

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Honestly, both. One of my main points of this post was matchmaking; ranked or not. The matches just feels abysmal and low quality across the board. (How am I regularly being matched with people who don’t even have a clue about the basics I mentioned vs. it being common sense for me)

I’ve also tried ranking another account and was placed a little higher than my main (as expected) but the matchmaking quality quickly became unrewarding and unbalanced again as it tried to figure out smurfs vs. new players vs. luck.

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One could argue that it is both…

good thing people don’t like to argue around here.

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Yes could be both but I think the rank system or at least the placement system is bugged hard this season. For example I was in a plat 2 to diamond 5 lobby and we had a dps doing placement that was silver 4 highest and ended season 8 at bronze 1 doing placements in this lobby. How is that even fair to him. He kept saying he didn’t belong there and honestly didn’t have any chance in that lobby.

I believe quick play should be lesser on the matchmaking just my opinion, but ranked should be strict with matchmaking with the exception of there being a party withing the 2 skill tiers then it should be both teams with that same range.

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Just a random question does anybody know how rank system even works other than being based off of win loss ratio.

Example: I have a friend that started playing ranked into diamond 2 on support. Went to do his DPS rank and lost his first game and it put him predicted at bronze 2. He didn’t finish the DPS role lol.

But how does this happen?
What are the factors that go into how you get placed?

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Could just be them on a different role

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You’re definitely not playing with people who are at your skill level. You’re playing with people who can offset your skill level. So if you’re playing at a level that is 1000 SR above where you currently rank, you’ll be placed with awful players so the teams will be fair.

Whenever you see someone say “that’s not how it works, I’ve never seen this happen to me” it’s because that person is one of the avg or terrible players that get placed on your team. From their perspective the games are completely fair because they’re playing with people who are at their level or better than they are.

This is what they call “fair” matchmaking.

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Its been an ugly grind back to GM. The matches were too wide in skill.

Im assuming this was expected on their end and that it would take a season or two to even things back out.

However, its causing a lot of frustration.

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