Soon we will have to limit the game to only 6 heroes and mirror comps and it will still be unbalanced.
The people who likes to play shield tanks are even less than the ones who plays offtank so enjoy the queue times I guess.
You can up/down the meta prevalence of 2shields via number and power of counters. Shields are just really good vs. hitscan and projectiles, but projectiles need more help. Mei/Sym are already good, and buffing passthrough heroes (like DF) or increasing dmg done to shields (for e.g. Pharah) might kill 2 birds with 1 stone (less 2shields and more projectiles in the meta) - and punishing clumped gameplay with aoe splash, where everyone turtles in a ball behind shields.
If only there were a way to DR shields (diminishing returns) that didnât involve shield-counters/roster picks. A lot of support effects donât stack, so it would be interesting to see shields ânot stackâ. Not sure how to accomplish this without opening new cans of worms at hero select like âwarning- too many shield tanks, shield strength diminishedâ. And now each of the shields is reduced by %.
The same DR approach could have been applied to supports to stop GOATS or builders btw. We never needed 222 lockdown.
Match quality is always a gamble with/without locked roles. With open, at least you donât gamble on queue times. If you want to trade match quantity (long queues) for quality (consistent roles), then use LFG. This is how it really should have been done in the first place.
Yeah but they donât though.
Winston and Wrecking Ball are both Main Tanks that work very well with each other, and the other Main Tanks (Orisa and Reinhardt).
Orisa Winston is one of my favorite comps to pull off on ladder.
So basically remove Sigma / rework him ino a Maintank?
Plenty here already have.
Itâd just be the next step if we limited to one main tank (or barrier) and one off tank.
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sigma is an offtank and should stay that way
shields got dumpstered and yet theyâre back again after a full year? itâs not the tanks fault, its the other heroes and the lack of proper balancing
Junk is not actually a good barrier counter. He doesnât really have that high of a DPS, so heâs nothing special in terms of breaking shields.
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I agree with that.
Also, if someone take Pharah the others shouldnât be able to take Mercy and viceversa. (all followed by consistent buffs to Pharah).
I think we just need another tank that can cleave through shields. Or a DPS that can. A good Winston can shut down anysingle shield bearer now. (obviously being outplayed is still a thing) but a single Winston canât take two of them.
It is broken. You canât look at orisas stats and say itâs not. She used to be a good tank that is now in the bottom of the barrel of all the heroes. Not just tanks. And she canât get the buffs she actually needs because of sigma just existing. So yeah there is a problem. and saying no to every solution isnât fixing it
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Well, a main tank is described as someone that can not only create and command space for the team, but to also have a capacity to mitigate damage for for the team in some way. This is why Wrecking Ball can be considered a main tank but Roadhog as not one.
Playing double off-tank and relegating someone as a âmain-tankâ doesnât make one of them a main-tank.
Off-tanks or âBruisersâ are notable for being high health heroes with a potential for strong self sustain, high kill potential, and more likely to have a lack of team benefits than their counterpart. This is why Zarya and Dâva can be described as off tanks but heroes like Orisa, Sigma and Reinhardt simply canât.
Playing double barrier and dubbing someone as an âoff-tankâ doesnât make them an off-tank.