Please Revert Mercy 2.0 changes

[Ginger-12314]

Okay? That has nothing to do with how she’s somehow rewarded for teammates dying. If the value is the same regardless of how many died, how is she rewarded?

[Quest-11845]

Yeah I’m gonna pass yo. This seems like a lot of work.

Agree to disagree. We all got our opinions yo.

[SoLIDSnAKE-12727]

Stop with the MERCY SPAM let our FORUMS in peace thanks!

[Ginger-12314]

Yes, proving something you have no argument for would probably take a lot of work.

[Quest-11845]

Wording my argument in a way that isn’t liable to misinterpretation is indeed a lot of work.

I don’t see why attempting to try and convince you, this one specific forum user, would be worth the time and effort it’d take.

I can argue. I just don’t see a point right.

That said, Kailan, I truly do appreciate your approach and perspective. I will do my best to further understand the situation. I have nothing but admiration and respect for your approach and patience. Thank you.

[Ginger-12314]

Proving your argument wrong =/= misinterpreting it.

[Quest-11845]

You must always consider, but never assume, the position of people that disagree with you.

This is a fundamental truth, and one I feel you have failed to appreciate. Just being honest, I don’t mean to be offensive.

I suggest you continue to consider and think about this game and how Mass Rez interacts with it as a whole, outside of your personal experiences and what you yourself saw. Try to understand the position of those that disagree with you.

That’s about all I have to say.

[Ginger-12314]

I understand that you don’t like mass rez. You’re entitled to that opinion. I just don’t see any evidence that supports it being inherently unbalanced or broken.

[Ryan-111758]

Actually they did say before (in the video announcing the rework non-the-less) that they would revert if they couldn’t balance it/we didn’t like it. So… yeah.

Actually no, Jeff has made 3 forum posts and one youtube Video where he specifically has said they will not revert Mercy, they prefer the direction of Valkyrie over Mass Rez and will continute to iterate upon it, and he has even said in several interviews that they want to keep Valkyrie and Rez on E. So…yeah.

[AdunSaveMe-1202]

Never going to happen. Sorry.

[BadWidowEU-2419]

None of what Blizz has said means mass Resurrect is never coming back…

[TerminatorUK-1932]

For the sake of her core balance, Rez needs to be tied to the ultimate somehow - it cannot be left as a standard ability otherwise Mercy’s core kit will rot and that is happening now.

I just beg that they consider:

• Changing Valkarie to a std ability. 5 secs duration, 30 secs cool-down, non-intteruptable rege removed
• Changed Rez back to ultimate which could be as simple as ‘two standard Rez charges’ (each wirh 1.75sec cast time) or the return of mass Rez (hold diwn mouse button…cast time = 1.75 cast time on first rez + 0.50 secs per additional Rez in a 15m area. LOS required in all cases.
• Return healing to 60HPS

A sufficient cast time that went up with move rez’s that you are trying to pull off + no invulberability would balance mass Rez in the ultimate slot without the return of ‘hide and Rez’ being effective again.

[Ryan-111758]

None of what Blizz has said means mass Resurrect is never coming back…

Yes, it does. Jeff specifically said they prefer having Valkyrie (or any variation of it) as her ultimate and believe it is the healthiest option for her, and have also said they want to keep rez on E in some shape or form (in response to people asking for a new E ability in the Lunar New Year Dev Update I believe it was). There’s also a forum post where he says they believe Valkyrie is the healthiest direction for her and will continue to iterate and change it until she is balanced.

[BadWidowEU-2419]

Jeff specifically said they prefer having Valkyrie (or any variation of it) as her ultimate and believe it is the healthiest option for her

They have a track record of being contradicting. An example is the existence of deathmatch.

they want to keep rez on E in some shape or form

Just because they want to doesn’t mean they will stick with it for the end of time.

[Nandalee-2753]

A revert isnt going to happen and I would prefer another rework over that anyway.

[BadWidowEU-2419]

This is the rework suggestion I am fighting for :)

@Titanium-1686

Valkyrie:

• Removed.

Resurrect:

• Removed as a basic ability and placed as Mercy’s ultimate ability.
• 15 meter range.
• Line of sight requirement. Does not apply to destructibles, payloads, or non-fundamental map obstacles that are too small to actually obscure a player. In other words, none of that BS where a player can move behind a lamp post to evade a nuclear explosion.
• 1 second cast time. Basic movement is unrestricted while casting, but all attacks and abilities are disabled for Mercy during this time.
• If Mercy is stunned or killed while casting, Resurrect does not activate and Mercy loses all ultimate charge.
• All living allies within range and LoS of Mercy once the cast time ends receive a burst heal of 150 HP. Mercy also receives this burst heal.
• All dead allies within range and LoS of Mercy once the cast time ends are revived at full health and receive 2.25 seconds of invulnerability (same as current Resurrect and Resurrect pre-rework).
• Mercy does not receive invulnerability upon Resurrect’s activation.
• Resurrect does not require dead allies to be activated.
• 1625 ultimate charge requirement (the same as Mercy 1.x’s Resurrect).

Most importantly, this takes Resurrect off one of Mercy’s basic abilities and places it into a position that matches its ultimate-like behavior. On top of this, various trade-offs were made to the ability to allow for the healing burst and the introduction of a second basic ability.

The healing burst, post-rez vulnerability, cast time, and LoS requirements all incentivise using Resurrect to revive 0-3 players rather than 4+ players. Attempting to use it on four or more players runs a greater risk a failed resurrect attempt due to the cast time. If Mercy manages to use Resurrect, there is a greater chance that she missed some allies due to the LoS requirement. If those two drawbacks do not drag her team down enough, there is also the fact that Mercy is vulnerable post-rez while her teammates are still reviving.

The healing burst and fire-at-will mechanics on Resurrect make the ability more flexible and open up some unique uses for it. For example, Mercy could use Resurrect to grant her team a burst of healing in the middle of the teamfight to keep their momentum going rather than waiting for an ally to rejoin the fight after being killed and revived.

New Basic Ability - Pacify:

• After a .5 second wind-up, Mercy launches a single hitscan attack from her left hand.
• The projectile’s hitbox size resembles that of Symmetra’s secondary fire.
• The projectile deals no damage upon impact with an enemy. Instead, it applies a debuff that reduces the base damage dealt by the target by 33%. 100 damage is reduced to 66 damage before other damage amplifiers/reductions are factored in.
• This debuff lasts for 4 seconds.
• The projectile does not persist once it hits an enemy. It is only able to affect one enemy for each use.
• The projectile is blocked by barriers, Defense Matrix, and Particle Barriers. It can be deflected by Genji’s Deflect ability.
• 10 second cooldown. The cooldown begins after the ability is cast.
• There is a .25 second wind-down time after Pacify is launched.
• During the wind-up and wind-down times, Mercy is not able to use her staff, her pistol, or Resurrect. She may use Guardian Angel, however.
• Does not affect non-player entities and constructs (turrets, Rip-Tire, Supercharger, etc).

[Nandalee-2753]

I know I voted for that.

[BadWidowEU-2419]

Here: ️ ️ ️

I ran out of likes.

[AKASOR-1886]

imo old mercy was a problem since all she had to do was hide and when the fight was over come in and rez not contributing to the fight until the end.

[Edgyveggie-1948]

Never realized how much attention this got, I wanted to add a couple things because Mercy is living in her own shadow. I’m not trying to spam Blizzard but I can’t believe how prideful, and disrespectful they are being by ignoring all the drama. And punishing passionate players who just want fun back…