But then I will I play my 3-1-2 comp. Please let me play sym in a tank slot where she belongs
Sym/Mei/Sombra are a bit tricky to place in comps.
I figure Mei can fully be moved over to the Tank role. But that still kinda leaves Sym/Sombra in a weird place.
And I’m supposed to let THIS guy dictate what my team’s comp should be. kk.
I remember hearing somewhere about “The Illusion of the Perfect 2/2/2.”
2/2/2 isn’t a magical solution that’ll work everytime.
Perhaps you need 3 supports?
Maybe you only need 1 tank?
On some Miracle you may actually need 4 DPS. (I’ve seen it happen and work)
I hate the idea of a forced 2/2/2 in Comp because it removes what I find to be one of OW’s defining features: Flexibility for the player.
And say I queue up for tank so I can play Wrecking Ball.
When we get into the game, the team decides we need a Rein.
I can’t play Rein nor can our other Tank. But our Mercy can.
What now?
At the moment, Mercy and I can offer to trade roles so I can heal in her place while she tanks. With a forced 2/2/2 queue, that’s not possible.
This is what LFG’s for.
But the community shoots itself in the foot and then tries to ask each other why they did it.
People don’t use LFG because it takes too long.
Why does it take too long? Because people don’t use it.
It can’t be both ways. Don’t complain about the problem if you’re going to contribute to it.
Forced 2/2/2 sounds incredibly boring in my opinion.
I need my Sextuple Support strats!
What is boring is the illusion of freedom
Do you remember overwatch when we can play 6 genjis ?
When people said it was stupid someone use the same idea of freedom “let us choose whats the best comp is with no limits”
Today everyone is agree, that was really stupid
We just need more tank and support heroes
But we definetly need a 2/2/2 team to structure this chaotic game
Everyone is pissed of today of that freedom that some exploits to throw games.
Just choose your role and queue for it (you will not be forced to play the role you dont want for the rest of the game)
If it’s too long you can flex (which is the purpose of this game)
Please stop with that freedom / creative idea which lead to an awful game experience
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I can’t wait to have to wait 10 minutes, even as a support player, to get a match. RIP dps players.
They really ought to look at this… I generally do one of several DPS, but tank off as Zarya.
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the cringe is real
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I agree with the OP’s comment on illusion of choice. I strongly support a 2 flex / 2 heal / 2 tank standard competitive queue. I don’t ever GET to choose - if I want to win, i always have to fill for these idiots so they can “choose” to play like morons and feed. I’ll take more fun games over their “flexibility” to throw.
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It takes too long because it doesn’t have a standard format, and instead has tons of tiny little shards of population.
Give it a standard format, with enough flexibility to cover every composition besides 3-4DPS comps.
And you got yourself a solution.
That still leads to the unwanted 3-3 comps.
A standard format 2/2/2 for competition is a good idea and would resolve a lot of balancing problem in the game.
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If 3-3 is a problem, then solve it through balance. Not by making it impossible to use.
You are completely right.
If this gets implemented, in time it will be a no brainer, like 1 hero limit for QP and Comp.
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Blizzard: It seems that people hate any non 2/2/2 meta that happened in competitive since even the beginning of the game’s competitive life.
Players: Can we get 2/2/2 blizzard? It can even be a separate mode. Whoever who doesn’t like it can join the normal version.
Blizzard: Nope. To take away your freedom of hero pick? Even though you WANT this to happen? even though it can become a separate mode? NEVER.
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That’s the worst approach to it. It usually means nerfing one single hero into the ground, or what Blizz just did, the awful nerf to armor.
Sure you impact 3-3, but the affected heroes have the risk of becoming useless in 2 support and 2 tank comps.
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Well, realistically I expected them just to limit Healers to 2 maximum per team, and call it done. But it seems like the devs are committed to solving it through balance. So I figure it’d be kinda fruitless to try to convince them otherwise.
That’s entirely another discussion mi amigo.
I guess, but forced ?-?-2 and forced 2-2-2 aren’t all that different when it comes to GOATs. They both make it impossible to use.