Laughs in Kotick 
The Overwatch team might care about itâs players, and might even agree with all of those points. I certainly do. But do you know who doesnât agree?
The ones at the top.
If they can nickle & dime you, they will. They do it with Hearthstone. They tried to do it with HotS. They did it with Diablo Immortal, in ways scummier than we could have ever imagined. Now theyâre coming for OW. They donât care about you. They care about how much money they can squeeze out of the whales.
âWhy would we let people work on battle passes at any point? That stops them from having to buy every pass, or fear missing out.â
âLimited time skins work well when we do it for the Overwatch League, why wouldnât it work for every cosmetic going forward? Why keep something in the shop when people will be more inclined to buy it if it becomes unavailable after a few weeks?â
They. Donât. Care. About. Us. They only care about our wallets. They see the success of other games that do these same horrid tactics, and they want a slice of that pie. Truly, the only way to get them to listen is to simply not purchase what they try to offer you. But unfortunately, even if the majority of the player base suddenly decided NOT to participate in their traps and tactics, the few whales that do will be more than enough for them to continue on with it. Because their money speaks louder than yours.
P.S. - Letâs not forget that theyâre going to lock new heroes to premium battle pass holders, and implement some sort of ban/rotation for F2P players. Yes, this was leaked. Playstation had it in their release article, it was edited out shortly after. Yes, the tried to sweep it under the rug. This is the price weâve paid for going F2P.
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OrâŚwait for it.
They can finish the PvE campaign, release OW2 when itâs ready (while adding things to PvP in the meanwhile), and just make us buy it like they did Overwatch.
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You are projecting what Blizzard, and specifically the OW team, are doing. Theyâre the ones expecting to get all the money they want from customers with no efforts whatsoever, and feeling like releasing real content whenever they feel like to (if it ever happens someday).
No one is entitled by simply asking for a company to do their job and release a real sequel with a real price tag. It doesnât keep them from having battle passes and purchasable skins from the store⌠There are P2P games that have Battle passes includedâŚ
The reality is that Blizzard is not releasing or working on real content only to trick supportive original players and fans into buying facultative cosmetics (on purpose).
People were to busy to learn the game in 2016 and there were many heroes to master for gamers, I mean âcustomersâ (by the definition of Blizzard-Activision) who were too busy actually playing the game and they forgot to spend hundreds and hundreds of dollars from the store.
Problem solved : all it took was releasing only 3 new heroes and a few maps (that existed since 2019 but were held back for the same reasons) for the âsequelâ on Day 1 so people are now so bored by the lack of content that they are more inclined to using their credit card more.
Smart.
Yes, that is exactly their goal 
⌠Itâs not like if there werenât surveys and actual psychologists that were hired by such companies to learn how to trick customers into spending more moneyâŚ
No no, youâre right, it is on the customers that should know betterâŚ
Can anybody else post something even more foolish and entitled than this post ?
I think Iâm ready for anything at this point 
Sure kid rationalize away there 
Take some responsibility in life.
The monetization scheme had to change; you get a free game with free battle passes (lower tier) and more content for free. Did you even know this?
Bruh with how high gas prices currently are, ill probably skip a few battle passes lol. I already have so many bills to pay, this battle pass would be another bill to add.
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I liken it to WoW. I pay for new expansions and the monthly sub. In return I can still go back and do old zones, old quests, and get old transmogs.
It makes no sense (other than exploitation) to shut off access to old battle pass content.
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âKidâ⌠I can bet anything you want that Iâm older than you. Your poor come-backs pretty show.
I am and thatâs exactly why I and many other people in here do everything we can to criticize / condemn such powerful companies that have no scruples whatsoever for the sake of profit.
Youâre fine with mediocrity at a high price. Iâm rooting for quality at a high price. Thereâs the difference. No efforts donât deserve that kind of money theyâre trying to make us pay for.
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no you donât understand. stop being ungrateful! there are american shareholders starving right now!
weâre the only ones that need to be responsible. devs/upper management are free to starve us for years, give us scraps, and weâre going to like it, goddammit!
what do you mean you want to have a say on what youâre investing in? what are you, some kind of communist? stop thinking and CONSUME!
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Not only will it be an extra bill, itâll probably be an extra job, too. 90+ hours to max your pass, otherwise you miss out.
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Shiiii Ill probably have to end up looking for another competitive game at this point.
Good one ⌠I guess some people like capitalism so much that it made them lose their ability to think straightâŚ
AnywaysâŚthanks for the laughs 
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LOL I assure you that you are not older than me, guarantee it.
No âpoor comebacksâ, you didnât say anything notable except whined a great deal.
Profit is what people act on, that is how life in a market works. Get used to it.
No, I am down for someone making a product, and asking a price for it, and you deciding itâs worth to you. Thereâs a HUGE difference. Donât like it, feel the value, donât buy it. Itâs simple.
Literally, free stuff galore here. Donât want the pack with beta and want to spin the wheel, by all means.
PVP is free; lower tier battle-passes are free which includes some cosmetics, etc.
PVE is optional and paid, but who knows, they may even unlock parts for free.
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It is a small courageous donation to help feed them.
- Consume.
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I know, right? Look at all these idiots, wanting to enjoy the game they play and have a reason to keep playing it without being left out just for the sake of a quick cash grabâŚ
Sarcasm, obviously.
Nobody is asking for easy skin unlocks. Weâre just expecting them to not ruin the game by putting fun on a deadline.
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We didnât have a say in this. We would have been fine with a real sequel at a full price if it was as qualitative as OW1 Day 1 in terms of experience. The problem is that F2P Overwatch doesnât offer anything substantially new in terms of gameplay or experience.
Having new skins, a few new heroes and maps canât make up for the lack of creativity and work done on the game (we were promised a new experience and thatâs also the reason why we had to wait for almost 3 years with nothing).
Iâm not sure what youâre talking about exactly but F2P Overwatch will have less content than OW1 on a yearly basis (if we donât count the 2019 to 2022 break).
And again, I donât mind F2P Overwatch having battle passes and expensive skins if the basics of the ânewâ game were solid Day 1 in terms of content (on October 4th 2022).
The problem is that F2P OW is almost boneless without the content they copy-pasted from OW1 and the things that are locked behind a paywall.
Thatâs what Iâm criticizing here. Even if I buy all the battle passes, it still wonât make up for the lack of content. Most of us expected a lot of new games modes, maps and heroes and all we get is a few maps that weâve known of since 2019 and 3 new heroesâŚ
5 V 5 is simply a downgrade of OW1 gameplay so we canât even count this as something new, Push is an extension of Escort and Hybrid and we also have an original game mode (that was different from other game modes) that is completely removed.
So again : whereâs the new content ?
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Uh itâs not your business⌠is it?
LOL if you say so
You do realize this is just the PVP release right?
Over time it will be far more, model had to change. You got your money out of OW 1.
Like what exactly that offends thee?
Uh yeah it will. You literally are paying nothing for PVP access and new characters and mapsâŚ
The balancing and playstyle makes it new. Again, PVP is free. You have zero to go on about on this.
Guessing you wanted 32 new characters, 15 new maps, a PVE portal⌠all for $12.99? Come on.
You get a new PVP game style, new characters, modes, and maps for literally nothing.
Hopefully they will allow direct purchase as well as battle pass unlocking. It keeps the battle passes honest.
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What product ? F2P Overwatch consists of 80% of what was already sold to us on OW1.
Why pay twice for the same thing ?
What difference ? Your explanation is unintelligible. Buying cosmetics is an option on the side when you play a new game (and I did buy skins on OW1 and Iâve never complained about it).
Whatâs problematic is that this version of Overwatch (which is F2P) doesnât have the basics, it only has the option to buy skins when most Overwatch players expected a new experience and new mechanics to learn.
Buying cosmetics cannot stand for the basic of a new game / sequel as cosmetics =/= content.
Copy-pasting the entire OW1 concept (and changing it a bit with 5 V 5) and adding new skins to buy canât be labelled as something brand-new either.
Youâre on a loop with your off-topic monologue. Itâs not about getting stuff for free, itâs about getting new content, period, no matter the pricing. I can buy all the battle passes from the F2P version of Overwatch, it wonât make me feel like Iâm playing something substantially different from my OW1 experience. Itâs the exact same thing with no real addition that changes the game.
Taking OW1 and simply adding a battle pass and expensive skins isnât enough to label that thing âOW2â.
I would have preferred to pay for both if it meant devs have worked on it thoroughly and with real efforts. I canât say anything about PVE for now but one thing is sure, they didnât work that hard of PVP. The little content that weâll have on October 4th proves it.
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YOU DO NOT PAY FOR PVP. Can I make this more simple?
To you maybe. Donât like something donât buy it. Simple.
That is the PVE portion in 2023. Really, did you not grasp this? Also, PVP in OW 2 plays in many ways very different from OW 1. What did you expect, 32 reworks?