I think if they turned off dash reset outside of ult it would do a lot to bring him into check. His dash reset is way to lenient.
If you literally apply every single thing to your statement towards Sombra, please explain to me why she is allowed to sit in the garbage.
- Stats representing the average performance of the hero.
- Not liking to play against them.
So we buff Sombra then to make her usable? Finally.
No. He was in the middle of the pack. Not Meta but also not Sym level. He was the definition of fine. The Buffs took fim from “fine” to “broken OP” in one patch. Thats the problem with it.
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The dash reset is necessary so he can get in and out. Otherwise all you see Genji doing is poking from range which is pretty bad.
Its not that complicated, he was fine before, just revert the buffs.
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Did you read my whole post? Like, go back and read it,you missed a VERY CRUCIAL part.
I wasnt arguing that genji was trash, but that we dont have data for now, we cant look at 6 month old data and say its recent.
We can see how genji was half a year ago before a lot of stuff happened, that was before echo was even released for example.
Doesnt mean its right to do the same thing to genji though
Well, unlike some people treat Sombra i did not ask Genji to be nerfed. I just didnt want him to be buffed. And now they did it anyways, made him OP in the process and i ask for reverts.
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All that genji needed/needs was/is an ult charge nerf to compensate for the massive buffs he received, so that blade isn’t up LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE TEAMFIGHT.
Still wrong. There was nothing wrong with him. His meta is dive and if dive (mobility) is not the current meta genji should not be strong. Its simple as that. If you buff characters that are in the middle of the pack (not “ultbots” like the genji mains called it) there is nothing wrong with it. There was no need to touch genji ESPECIALLY when Brig got a nerf and Moira is the next on the nerfing list.
He was in the middle and the counters got nerfed… that alone would have incresed his usability (just the supports are again the f ones). The buffs where unrational and not needed at all.
with his current power without ult he needs a BLADE nerf and not just a ultcharge one. He is to effective even without blade. Thats the problem when you buff EVERY PART OF HIS KIT without thinking.
So nerf blade, got it. I kinda said that, even if my details were a little different.
Ahh yes, the almost 6 straight months of mccree buff after mccree buff, and being forced to vs him in literally every single game was ‘quick intervention’ hahahaha.
Hes not exactly op though, hes strong for sure, but hes not overpowered.
Its the period right now where everyone is playing a hero because they got buffed making it seem like theyre op
They said that the first week, then the second week, then the third week and Genji is climbing and climbing in stats, not slowing down.
He is OP, i said that when we saw them on the experimental and people now abuse it as long as they can.
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Hes not exactly “climbing and climbing” in stats, even the flawed stats we have of overbuff shows that hes staying in the exact same spot winrate wise, his winrate since before the buff has gone up by a WHOPPING 1% in gm, from 56 to 57, while his pickrate is high, hes still not the most picked hero, and the second most picked dps still has a higher winrate than genji.
Do i really need to explain to you how its insane climbing in winrate while your pickrate is basically climbing torwards more than 6 times it was before? People tend to forget, but D.Va and Hanzo were also buffed. They arent anywhere the sillyness which is the Genji situation.
Edit: Also lol at “hes still not the most picked hero”
Genjis pickrate got higher by less than 4 times, and still not the highest picked hero, his winrate also is barely higher than the 2 above him.
Hes not, ana and sigma especially in gm are picked more, while ana and reinhardt are picked more in lower ranks, ana is the most picked hero in EVERY rank above gold.
but back to the point.
His winrate moving just slightly up while his pickrate is moving up would literally just point at him being buffed. Not even extremely much, even the slightest of buffs would have that happen, maybe not in this extreme of a manner but it would.
Genji isnt balanced, hes stronger than most heroes, but hes not OP, hes not a necessity in any game, and he can easily be countered.
According to GM this week at the time of writing this post
Ana pickrate 10.40% winrate 56.15%
Sigma pickrate 10.09% winrate 55.02%
Genji pickrate 8.90% winrate 57.46%
next dps after genji is
Ashe pickrate 4.75% winrate 57.66%
lmao in diamond and master he’s pickrate is more than twice that of Ashe 
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Dude ever since role queue is a thing, dps heroes dont compete with supports or tanks for a spot. It doesnt matter that he less picked than the most picked tank and the most picked support, which by the way have a way smaller roster to compete with than the dps category. Dps by default have a wider distribution than tanks and supports, which is why its way harder for them to get a gigantic pickrate. Ashe sitting around 4.5%-ish is already considered pretty high for a dps. Genji is approaching 9%, which is double that of the second most picked dps which was considered OP and just got a nerf.
You Genji mains need to look at reality and stop being delusional.
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To be fair, webs are screwed since private profiles exist so only Devs know the exact rates and also … for god sakes please learn how WR works.
When a hero is SO picked up that there’s 2 of them in every match, Devs look at what happens in matches that specifically are played with ONLY ONE team having said hero. The classic “Either we have X or our chances of losing are insanely high” is a very legit way to see if the hero is over the top and needs a nerf.
Also this is not a circular reasoning, he is not OP because he has those stats, when you go in game, you can SEE the skill floor is lower and the value he gets is WAY HIGHER on average than it was before per skill / effort invested, therefore those rates display an accurate depiction of reality.
Not a genji main, and you, someone who clearly spends a lot of time on the forums should know well enough to check someone before you judge them
I have maybe 3-4 topics, and at this point dozens of posts saying how i dont use this account, i havent placed it since like season 18 or 19 once, nor do i play on it, i only use it for the forums because of my post history.
I am an Ana main, after ana im a rein and hog main, after that im a soldier and cree main. I barely play any genji anymore, and everything i say is based on what i see happen in the games, not how i experience playing genji.
Which will trend down in the upcoming weeks, maybe not immediately but it will, based on the level of countering he gets in most games now.
Again, a very high pickrate is expected of someone like genji after a buff, since genji is definitely the fan favourite dps of all time on overwatch, him staying at a good 4-5% pickrate even in a bad state shows that, people like playing him because hes genji, after a buff everyone plays him for some time, and i reckon its gonna go down by 1-3%
And again.
I think genji is strong, hes not balanced, but hes not overpowered. Overpowered means he is a must pick, and a team without him will lose. Such as with Ana right now, if a team doesnt have an ana its very very likely it will lose.