Party Frames might be a huge W

[Nyxa-21603]

@lmx847-1353

lmfao you’re hilarious my guy

Touché

[ThiccBuddha-1468]

I never realized that UI was such a touchy subject.

[Nyxa-21603]

Didn’t you know, team UI is only the first step, next is ow becoming an idle game filled with rainbows and cookie dough Then the gay agenda will be fulfilled.

[SleepyB34r-1518]

If ult tracking is what is separating you from other players… you are a pretty weak member of your team.

[Fizzbin-1581]

Party frames should have been in the game from the beginning.

[Potatoad-21404]

Anyone else remember this thread?

Please add friendly health bars as UI like we saw in pve

I think it would be tremendously helpful to be able to see your teams health. Especially for healers that are sometimes in front and cant tell if people may need healing behind them. Or if a tank cant tell if their support needs help.

In case anyone doesn’t want to click: it’s a thread requesting party frames. It scooped up over a thousand likes.

I’m really happy that they’re going to give it a shot. I’ve always thought it should be in the game since day one.

[SnowManMan11-1206]

@lmx847-1353

Nope. It just serves to widen the skill gap between good players and players with no gamesense.

@lmx847-1353

Because anyone who would be reliant on these systems (outside of disability reasons), doesn’t have the skills yet to take advantage of such a system as they still lack most of the basics of OW. Such a system will only encourage them to never look around to get gamesense, never bother checking in on their team visually, etc.

Most of the vital information in OW is NOT conveyed through UI, but through in-match animations, sounds, etc. Team UI will only become a crutch for many/most players, holding them back from developing their skills organically.

Anyone with the skills to take advantage of the situation will already understand the value of gamesense which requires moving your camera to looks around at your mates/enemies making the change essentially redundant.

If they made a casual arcade mode or whatnot with team UI I’d be all for it, but not in QP/comp because it’s a fundamental change to the game and all future players, not just a simple UI change.

We should be encouraging players to increase their skill, not dumbing down the game to make it easier to play for people who don’t play the game. It’s like changing the rules of the college football based on your local flag football team’s skill.

You sound really desperate to convince us all that you have gamesense

[Megadodo-11847]

I would see such a change as a huge L for the game, not a W

[Toast-22632]

The last thing this game needs is further lowering of skill requirements for the support role.

[lmx847-1353]

@SleepyB34r-1518

If ult tracking is what is separating you from other players… you are a pretty weak member of your team.

If making dumb assumptions just to make weak attempts at insults is what separates you from other commenters, you’re pretty near the top of the list.

@SnowManMan11-1206

You sound really desperate to convince us all that you have gamesense

Ok…? Wow I’m just torn up by that slicing remark

[Poytheon-1466]

@Megadodo-11847

I think this would be a very unrealistic change

What is unrealistic about it?

@lmx847-1353

Nope. It just serves to widen the skill gap between good players and players with no gamesense.

It actively discourages players from developing their skills and gamesense.

Players will still develop their skills and gamesense over time. This change will help give them more information in real time. I think this helps newer/less experienced players most, but it will even help higher skilled players keep track of their teammates status. It will help coordinate pushes if you know your team is all full HP & what their ult status is without having to do a 360 to look at your teams HP or open the scoreboard for ult charge.

@Nyxa-21603

It doesn’t effect balance, it gives more information, there is literally no downside to the game becoming more convenient for the player

I cannot believe I am agreeing with poytheon.

It’s about time! You’ve been missing out on all my spot on hot takes.

@Gralak-1240

i wouldnt mind it… i mean, i play the game for fun…fun to me is not having to keep tabbing over to the scoreboard screen to see who’s got ults…

Agreed! It’s literally just putting the info on your screen at all times (while not overloading your screens UI if they do it right) instead of having to tab for ult charges

This will help with teamwork coordination big time without everyone having to be on comms.

@ThiccBuddha-1468

I fail to see the problem.

There isn’t one

I’m also guessing it’ll be optional. If you don’t want party frames, you can probably turn them off to get rid of any potential visual clutter. Though if they do it well, it shouldn’t take up much space. Just put 4 tiny circles surrounded by HP/ult charge right above your health bar/icon in a horizontal line, boom. Now you know all of your teammates HP/ult charge at all times and won’t have to tab the scoreboard and block your entire screen to find out

@Nyxa-21603

Not really, the game is a hero shooter it’s game balance is its hero balance.

You haven’t given a good reason why party frames are a bad idea, except that the game will be easier for bad/new players to get into. Which is more in the defense of party frames than against it.

You tell em

@Outside-11127

All these in-game systems are bloated, buggy, and break the game.

How are party frames bloated/buggy/break the game? They’re probably going to be optional, and they could take up very little space by your already existing healthbar. It shouldn’t feel cluttered if they do it right.

@lmx847-1353

It’s really just doing a disservice to new players

I think it’s a great service to new players. This game has a pretty large learning curve and keeping track of everything can be hard. These party frames should help with that.

@ThiccBuddha-1468

I never realized that UI was such a touchy subject.

Seriously What’s with all the toxicity about it? Seems like nothing but a Win.

@Potatoad-21404

In case anyone doesn’t want to click: it’s a thread requesting party frames. It scooped up over a thousand likes.

I’m really happy that they’re going to give it a shot. I’ve always thought it should be in the game since day one.

I never gave much thought to it, but wow, I somehow didn’t see that thread. Great idea & I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a liked post.

@Megadodo-11847

I would see such a change as a huge L for the game, not a W

Why is that?

@Toast-22632

The last thing this game needs is further lowering of skill requirements for the support role.

I don’t think it really does that, not to any meaningful degree anyways. It’s not like players can just click portraits to heal their teammates, they still have to play the game. If anything, this just helps teams coordinate better without having to constantly have comms saying what their ult charge is, and it will help coordinate pushes knowing that your team is either full HP, or not.

[Takodan-2336]

I’ve been asking for this for years and years. When playing Ana, its so cumbersome going in to TAB to see if people’s ult has charged. Small icons on the lower part of the screen and your done.

[Toast-22632]

@Poytheon-1466

I don’t think it really does that, not to any meaningful degree anyways

It helps players with poor awareness of what’s going on in the teamfight. The end.

Supports need their skill floors massively increasing and do not need yet another thing to hold their hands.

[Anhur-11767]

Tbh, I think this decreases the skill floor for tank way more than support but even DPS benefits more than support. Dps and especially tanks being able to know more easily that their support is in trouble will make them far less likely to feed because they won’t get healed.

Does it decrease support skill floor? Of course it does; they can more easily see who needs healing, but support is usually the ones most in the backline anyway so it’s not really a big deal. Tanks on the other hand usually lead the charge so to speak and it can be much harder to be aware of what’s happening behind you than in front of you.

Even from the perspective that supports skill floor is too low, I don’t think this change even benefits them more than it does the other 2 roles.

[YumaKuga-11940]

@lmx847-1353

It actively discourages players from developing their skills and gamesense.

No, it just makes it easier to multitask. This is huge for Tracer, as her playstyle usually comes down to diving and peeling.

[Lasse-22423]

@lmx847-1353

Nope. It just serves to widen the skill gap between good players and players with no gamesense.

It actively discourages players from developing their skills and gamesense. Just another example of the game being balanced for the dumbest of the playerbase.

You mean it takes so much skill to keep spamming that tab-button to check ults right? Better to just make it so it’s always available for a simple QoL change.

[AussieCxnt-1233]

Your post reeks of elitism lol

[Tobias-22318]

Coming to OW1 from WoW I was kinda shocked I had to track health pools by looking at tiny, constantly moving healthbars. And god help me if the low HP target was standing behind me.

Nowadays I’m much better at it. But to have the option for these frames sounds like there will potentially be less-tunnel vision from players.

Also, the number of people who YOLO into fights when we’re down 2+ people is amazing. At least if people can see how many are dead at a glance we won’t have to rely on people noticing the killfeed.

[Prismikz-1180]

the scoreboard lookin real good rn

[KumaKuma-11146]

I would’ve been open to this until the recent changes. Now I think we should keep a few things that need gamesense, especially when all you need to do for this is open up the scoreboard.