[OW2] Reddit, might have solved Mercy and Sojourn

Shes the popular character because shes Mercy, even if she was -F tier, she would still be picked and played, because of the fact shes Mercy.

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Well, he’s got the job title, and he’s probably the one making decisions.

So if your ideas don’t align with what he wants, then they might as well not exist.

But that’s fine, because they mostly don’t exist. :stuck_out_tongue:

You’re looking at Top 500, Alec is probably looking at the entirety of GM, and a bit of Masters.

I’m kind of bad with math, but which one would be better? Or is it just the same thing? Because increasing the rate of fire is a damage boost too. Plus doesn’t this just mean sojourn would charge her railgun faster now? Or would widow have less time to charge her shot?

The thing is it’s dramatically different on things like Widowmaker and Sojourn and Roadhog. Especially at high ELO.

And pretty much any “one big cooldown/charge” attack.

Look, I think that you need to stop taking Blizz’s words at face value.

They think that Symmetra counters Genji. Their words can not be trusted, because most of the public faces and lead devs are more corporate than actual game makers.

Too many words, too little data, too little point on discussing over the words of breast milk thieves.

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Well she does, in probably the bottom 20% of ELOs. Especially on console.

Why do you think I keep talking about removing Sym’s low ELO cheese?

On paper sym does counter genji. But not in practice.

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Because a lot of people would rather blame and scapegoat sentries and call Symmetra ‘‘no skill cheese’’ over admitting they died to perfectly aimed orbs/beam.

Sentries themselves are nothing special in low tiers. They are not the boogiemen that a lot of forum/reddit keyboard fighters pretend they are. Specially when they dont even play in low ranks and instead pretend because they got their butts beat concave by a Sym in their actual rank.

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Not even in paper, unless we reduce the entire thing to ‘‘beam counter deflect’’ which is ignoring that her beam has 60 dps (less on the first seconds of a fight) and Genji has triple that damage instantly.

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And that’s how you keep Symmetra to in OW1 Bastion tier.

If you think that sentries are the issue, despite being nerfed for years with zero compensation, and not team TP, I think that you need to get off your high horse and actually listen to the people who main and breathe the hero.

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This would be insanely broken with some characters.

It puts more emphasis on sustained fire rather than helping burst fire. Therefore, you can’t really boost a hog hook. Reinhardt pin still only does 225 dmg. Sojourn rail gun dmg can’t do much. However, it lets there be more spam in the game. People like S76 benefit either way. Anyone without a reload benefits greatly.

I can appreciate that you make suggestions for heroes and issues you see in balancing.

But when have the dev team ever listened to anything or anyone other than themselves? They’ve done it once or twice years ago, but lately…I wouldn’t put any confidence that they’d listen.

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I’m very interested in the specifics on that.
It’s possible I missed something, but I can’t think of any characters where it would be dramatically stronger than +30% damage.

Well it would really only effect primary and secondary fire. It wouldn’t work on ability cooldowns I assume. I’d be okay with this change I think. Maybe not as the mercy player, but as a soldier or sombra I’d like it.

Oh god bastion 30% fire rate increase though. That’s scary.

Well, I don’t know if they are listening, but I have seen quite a few recurring highly specific and unintuitive “coincidences”.

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Mercy actually probably just needs a rework, one that prohibits hard pocketing, and gives her more agency/ less team reliance.

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Reinhardt’s melee swing, any transformative ult like Genji’s, any character that has on-hit effects like Reaper, any high alpha character like Pharah.

The only characters I see it being ‘meh’ on are ones that already have high ROF like Bastion, Tracer and Sombra.

No offence, but with the amount you post (seriously how do you have 61k posts I feel like a complete no-lifer for having a tenth of that!) I’d chalk that up to luck more than anything. Roll 61k d1000 dice and you’ll get at least a couple natural 1000s.

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