Summary of all the legit criticism in the video:
-Instead of Overwatch pioneering F2P game struckture in a new exciting way they just adapted all the WORST exampled of it.
-Can’t re-earn the premium currency through the battlepass (even Fortnite lets you do that)
-Can’t complete past battlepasses (even Halo Infinite lets you do that)
-We are getting content that we already paid for in OW1 with the box-price RE-SOLD to us as ‘new’ content (archive event like missions shouldn’t cost $15 dollars, people buying skins and battlepasses should already cover the cost of such side-content)
-You can only enjoy the game NOW, if basically give yourself memory-loss and try to forget the things you enjoyed in the original Overwatch, like being able to progress your hero gallery EVERY DAY not just when Blizzard decided to give an event skin.
I would also personally add to this last one how for me, getting free lootboxes was the most joy aspect of the game. The 1500 credits that they give out simply put are more depressing, than opening up a lootbox and not getting anything other than sprays and icons.
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That’s really the part there that fits best. OW2 as Jeff Kaplan presented it, and redefining what a sequel could be, had the potential to not just amaze Overwatch fans, but show the industry a better way to do things. Instead it just showed the industry how not to become a joke.
Sucks.
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Microsoft is attempting to persuade regulators around the world to clear its $68.7 billion acquisition of Activision Blizzard — the biggest deal of its kind the gaming industry has ever seen. 4 days ago
You will own nothing and be happy
Microsoft is part of World Economic Forum
[Klaus Schwab in conversation with Satya Nadella, CEO of Microsoft]
- Klaus Schwab, Founder and Executive Chairman of the World Economic Forum is in conversation with Satya Nadella, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Microsoft Corp. at Davos 23.
- Technological developments, AI, cyber security, the Metaverse, sustainabilty, the economy and talent acquisition and retention were just some of the topics under discussion.
- Nadella explained how technologies developed on one side of the world can now impact a tiny rural community on the other side of the world.
everything he is saying is right so its no surprise that overwatch is bleeding players. still i wonder how many new people come along and what the population is.
now the question is how long will overwatch live and will it change. dont have a clue lol but its looking bad every year
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Personally, I’d put my hat on 2025, being generous.
That’ll be the point in which the game ends up like Overwatch (2019-20). Sooner if a direct competitor comes along.
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but the basic problem is not THIS, but the complete nonsense around the change of mind continues on how to manage the monetization of old content, effectively making the shop a scamming that does not redirect you to the most advantageous offer at all because there are the developers who changed once again the base price of the old content that week, denying them single purchases in credits or worse still by increasing the prices. a week before you see bundles offered in credits prices, and a week later you find them offered in coins. it’s absurd, as well as dishonest to new players who pay high prices for 6 year old content and never really improved with the graphics power of OW2 and its extra 2 GB compared to ow1. it’s a continuous scam to make content available only for one week, creating pressure to buy whether you want to make or not, without giving anyone the opportunity to decide how and when to spend their money if they want something. Your gameplay isn’t worth anything in principle in terms of payoff, but the amount of extra time-limit pressure is even more excessive.
the BP? now more than “The exclusive of the season” it has become the basic bundle to be sold in as many units as possible. if they had simply decided that BP only has prices in real money (rather than in coins) we would all have already made a simple reason: a F2P who by selling 6 times the BP every year to users earns the equivalent of when they sold at Dayone OW1 . even without selling ALL OW1 players a BP, ow2 already earns immensely more with base BP in a year to reward all money invested on skins alone. they just unnecessarily ramped up data maintenance with increasingly ridiculous objects to maintain at prohibitively expensive prices. this is real greed.
If there wasn’t THIS shop, a piece of money on BP and PVE missions would have been accepted. all together? NO, and the public is no longer even willing to accept yet another understanding demanded by developers as workers.
this is another shame, because we are talking about a BOUGHT product that encourages you to play, not condemning you to play as much as possible in a period that is not comfortable for you in case of unforeseen events.
it gets worse, a lot worse: they don’t even dare to mention “archive” when talking about the PVE experience, and it should be the best comparison of how much the OW2 experience would have improved. The fact that they also avoid naming him and even talking about dead projects like Titan is shameful. it just means that they want to obscure the responsibilities that OW1 was already doing as a live service and that today… it’s just BACK to doing the live service it was meant to be all along.
that “2” goes down just like “jesse mccree” in the game data.
Come on Riot, Come on Riot, Come on Riot, Come on Riot.
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also if “xdefiant” and “the finals” will bleed more players. im keeping an eye on those games and will try for sure if the reviews are good
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overwatch 2 is secretly sequel to diablo immortal in term of microtransaction choices
Probably unlikely: Project L is competing in the FGC (fighting games); and Project F (if it still exists) would be a Diablo competitor.
Their furthest away game is the Riot MMO, which would be a competitor for WoW.
Closest AAA title that might be a hero shooter is Project MATTER, designed by Bungie Studios.
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Dreamhaven is growing big they also have Frostgiant studios.
It’s the continuous “discounted” prices for me. They piss me off.
It’s not “on sale” or “discounted” if that’s the price it’s always going to be. They are not doing us favors by listing that it’s discounted or on sale. What it highlights to me is:
- They’re even more dogwater about their valuation of their cosmetics if they think the full price for a skin is $40 dollars. They can absolutely piss off with that valuation
- They are engaging in brainless mind-tactics to get people to think they’re getting a deal when the skin is $20 - but this doesn’t work when it’s always discounted - just make the “original” price the discounted price and be so for real about the price of the item
And you know, I get it. The dev team for Overwatch probably isn’t the one setting these prices; it’s likely leadership. All of it goes back to Bobby Kotick, who needs to go. He must leave. He must walk into the ether, never to return again. He’s stained the gaming industry in irreparable ways.
The monetization in this game is despicable. I enjoy watching the company incur the wrath of people who know better and know this isn’t right.
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True, but we don’t really have much to go off of when it comes to the games they produce.
Not to mention, they don’t have the financial backing akin to a AAA company.
Stylosa has always been pretty honest and straight forward about the state of the game. He is the only OW content creator I follow.
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stylosa out here being a cry baby again im not surprised
since start of OW2 the only verified OW2 content creator that i can trust is stylosa
flats,youroverwatch,karq,seagull,and others shill to this game so hard it just seem they dissapointed with PVE cancellation is just act to get a goodwill from their fans while they actually didn’t care
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Blizzard doesn’t care they extracted every money out of remaining OW fans, made them buy the few battlepasses, skins and then made insane record sales with Diablo IV.
Just be smart and never buy any activision/blizzard games anymore but you fools didn’t learn your lesson from EA and were eager to pre-order Diablo IV.
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I don’t know about that, I do have my own gripes with some creators opinions, and I can’t really say for the others, but I will say that from what I watched, Seagull commented in his initial OW2 release review video that PVE is unlikely to be what the developers claim it was, and it turned out to be the case. While he says he does like the PVP side of the game for the most part, he does talk about his disappointment with a lack of long term progression and/or end game, which stifles his incentive to continue playing since competitive ranking is not always the best nor the be-all and end-all for those players anymore.
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It’s why I’m effectively done with ABK games. My dislike of anti-consumer practices is greater than my like of any specific game.
- I was a huge Sonic fan growing up and loved most of the games, but when Sonic Mania came out it had Denuvo (and didn’t even list it on the store page,) so I just passed on the game.
- I had and loved an original XBox and a 360 but the launch of the XBox One trying to make me have a constant, stable broadband connection to play offline single-player games, the mandatory Kinect 2, no sharing/borrowing games or buying used games, throwing ads on the home screen (for a product they wanted you to pay $500 for back in 2013,) was so offensive to me that I knew I wouldn’t buy any kind of XBox again.
- I played Payday 2 for hundreds of hours, always grinding out infamy and having fun with it. Then, as the reward for an anniversary event, they did a balance update to change the stats on all the weapons which threw off a lot of breakpoints (guns that used to be able to headshot couldn’t anymore, etc.,) while at the same time they announced they were adding crates and keys to the game to add weapon skins… and the skins had stats. And the stats would get weapons back to those breakpoints they had just changed. And that was the day I said I’d never give Overkill another dime of my money.
I know I’m just one wallet amongst billions, so those companies don’t really care, but I stick to my word on stuff like that. I’m not going to give my money to a company that doesn’t respect me as a customer, even if it ultimately doesn’t change anything.
