What else should he have? I think the spread should be tightened a bit sooner, but I think heās ok
Well all know you arenāt going to talk about thatā¦ you will accuse it but will never prove it.
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Thatās good because allowing Bastion to ride Orisa in recon would be lewd and should be rule #10: No lewding Bastion.
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Might want to scroll up, bud.
This is patently nonsense.
You could say the same about any unique aspect of any hero and it would be just as absurd to accuse them as to accuse Bastion.
Accusation =/= discussion.
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#8 All Bastion mains are equal.
#9 Some Bastion mains are more equal than others.
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Are we already arguing about his concept?
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Noā¦ Itās because heās forced to go stationary that makes this difficult. That makes him a very easy target, which is why Ironclad is a thing to begin with. You canāt balance a hero whoās primary function is going stationary. Itās just poor design.
Dammit! Well, Iām out. Good luck with your viability voyage tho. 
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Personally, I donāt. I despise her kit design and balance, not the hero.
Second of all, she needs a rework, and thatās not hypocritical of me since Iāve proposed the same still with Bastion, like putting tank on E.
People can hate the hero all they want, but itās been 3 years of this games lifecycle, and itās old. I donāt care that you, or anyone else hates the hero, leaving a simply reply like āGood, he deserves to be F-tierā is as old as dust, and has nothing constructive about it. We already have 1 post like that, but at least a discussion has come from it.
Which is what I have proposed a lot of times. I get it, people hate him, and donāt want him meta. neither does any Bastion main. But the very stuff Iāve listed out, like making IC work as intended and buffing his ult, that should not be an unreasonable buff for him.
Yes, but you arenāt going to gain any ground by suggesting we delete Bastion.
False.
His pre-rework state in 2017 was the closest to balance heās been. All he needed back then was the ability to move while healing and recon buffs. He got those buffs, but Blizzard took it upon themselves to neuter Sentry which crippled him, since that is his bread and butter.
Not to mention since that point in time, there has been a massive power creep and Bastion has received a lot of counters. It doesnāt make sense for him to get rolled by majority of the cast.
Itās been proposed to move Tank onto E, but that lost traction when Blizzard said they didnāt want to rework him.
And buffing recon only makes him a clunkier version of Soldier, or if heās too powerful heāll replace Soldier, just in Recon alone.
No, I do not want him to be based around recon, no more than I want Soldier based around his helix rockets. The rule of thumb is 30/70. 30% Recon, 70% Sentry.
Which was caused when they took away HS, and then-2.0 spread, and gave him IC.
Thatās the thing, he trades ALL mobility to be that way. I think that is a fair tradeoff, because thatās what makes him a threat, or at least should.
I donāt care. Heās here to stay, and he deserves the attention of the balance team as much as any other hero.
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Youāre going in circles, we all know that turrets are stationary, you have provided ZERO explanation. Stating the obvious is not proving your point.
Say why. Explain why.
Itās like saying āGenji is the only hero that can reflect damage, therefore he is impossible to balanceā it doesnāt make any sense. It may make sense in your head, but you could (and most likely do) have entirely flawed thinking from ignorance and self-serving interests.
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I just want IC when transforming, because currently he doesnāt. Then I want 30-35% IC on Tank, because his ult is paper mache without it. 150 Armor on his ult was never a problem, and now that there has been a huge damage power creep, he needs that same old layer of protection.
20% on Sentry is good because of the firepower of Sentry. But it is far too weak on an ult. Imagine if this was the case with Winston.
He gets 500 more HP, as well as his ability to heal himself fully when pressing Q.
That health gets applied instantly, whereas IC on Bastion does not.
Then to bend reality, Blizzard takes away that 500 extra HP AND the ability to heal his health to full, and then gives him 50% damage reduction. Come to find out, itās too much, and gut it down to 30%. Well, heās still got 500 HP, but he is far more fragile because his effective HP was nerfed.
Thatās the problem with 20% IC on Tank.
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Need glasses, mate? I told you why. Itās because he becomes incredibly vulnerable as a stationary target. Now youāve already taken away the playerās need to evade by making that impossible, reducing the skill floor of the hero considerably. He has to deal incredible damage to compensate for his poor design. The only other alternative is to make him too tanky to kill. The bottom line is that itās either going to be too easy to kill or too hard to kill.
I like it.
I really hope bastion gets some attention soon.
Maybe a sweet Overwatch Reworkā¢ļø like Mercy so we get a second omnic crisis.
Also, I predict the people inside this thread will also become rusty waiting for buffs.
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Also good.
It sounds like you want a whole lot of reward for not doing anything. Sentry form should have a resource mechanic, shouldnāt be able to stay in it forever. Buff his damage even idc, just actually make the person play the game.
I feel like bastion should be moved to the tank category cuz he is very tanky, soaks up a lot of damage, creates space, and his ult is a tank
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If weāve lasted 2 years, weāre used to getting ignored. The unrest has been long gone for awhile now.
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I must REALLY need glasses because itās missing the follow up to that where you say why that would be impossible to balance. Again, youāre stating the obvious to stay a stationary target is harder to hit, loads of things in Overwatch are stationary.
What poor design?
Say why not being able to constantly move is poor design? As I said, as I so accurately predicted and as you continue to prove you donāt want to discuss this, all you want to do is accuse.
We all know what youāre trying to do. Youāre just trying to hype up the hate, by any desperate attempt you can, just keep piling on the scorn until people somehow think itās normal and acceptable.
Well itās not.
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