D.va: Best off-tank, there’s almost no situation in which D.va is not good.
Zarya: Situational. Mainly dependent on the map and enemy team composition.
Roadhog: Awful. If you think Roadhog is best suited for the situation, just swap him out for D.va and you’ll get better results. Only time you might want to pick Hog, is in Slambulance or Bunker (Orisa+D.va+Roadhog).
It’s like, what do you even do? Do you nerf D.va? Well if you nerf D.va, then Bunker becomes way too powerful and the meta is awful. I just feel like D.va is necessary, but she’s only necessary because of the amount of power creep that’s in the game. She’s a gatekeeper for awful spam metas, and those are the metas I don’t want.
Zarya should get a tiny buff. She did get nerfed because of GOATs, but outside of GOATs she’s not all that great. Fun fact: GOATs is still the most powerful comp! It’s like that Zarya nerf just hurt Zarya and didn’t do anything to GOATs, and that Brigitte should seriously be looked at.
Roadhog is just straight up trash. He’s so bad that D.va can just replace him. Quit giving him such meaningless buffs, he doesn’t need to be more tanky, he doesn’t need a faster fire rate, he doesn’t need a larger clip size, HE NEEDS DAMAGE BECAUSE HE HEAVILY RELIES ON HIS PICK-POTENTIAL. I’m sure the devs aren’t going to buff him anytime soon, solely bc of the ruckus he caused on the forums 2 years ago. That outrage from the Platinum’s and below are why his damage got nerfed, and ultimately why we got Brigitte.
I’m just at awe with the balance of the off-tanks, it’s incredibly awful and it’s been like this for a while. D.va’s been the staple of the game for a while, Zarya is situational, and Roadhog is trash-tier.
I haven’t been up to diamond (which is a pretty high % of players), but everything below Hog is pretty good. I’m a flex off tank player and have found Hog to be a lot better than people say.
You realize all the off tanks are still good compared to many of the dps except roadhog. Nerf defense matrix or missles on Dva I guess because you want it.
Wrecking Ball needs a more reasonable ball boop hitbox, while we are at it. He can pretty much cover the whole contestable area on some maps by just perma-rotating or swinging around the center. Also, he gets out of jail way too easily. And no, one hero (Sombra) countering him isn’t a good replacement for actual balance.
You could say the same for Reaper, Junkrat, Pharah, Moira, and Mercy. They’re all pretty good at below Diamond, but they’re all pretty trash-tier.
I see that Roadhog seems a bit more popular in the lower ranks, but that’s just the lower ranks. This doesn’t mean the hero is actually strong, because if he was, then he’d see a lot more playtime.
Zarya is not in a better spot, in general. There are some situations in which Zarya may be more optimal, like Kings Row, but D.va is a lot better.
D.va being flexible is what makes her OP, no character should be able to: contest high ground, have the best peel potential in the game, do good damage, be able to deny ultimates, have an ultimate that can cause a team-wipe, and have a 2nd life.
She’s far too versatile.
You’re right. Wrecking Ball is pretty busted and Sombra is the only one that can hard punish him. Though this doesn’t seem to be a very popular opinion in the forums.
If something is good enough for > 85% of the players playing comp I wouldn’t consider that “trash tier”. That isn’t even including a high amount of players that never play comp and would obviously be below Diamond.
Zarya does better damage and can carry way harder. Dva can peel and control the high-ground somewhat but thats about it. Her damage is subpar, her ult is super easy to avoid, you have a two second window between matrix to launch your ult, and her 2nd life can get her staggered which screws her team
Edit: just realized you said zarya is better than dva on kings row (dva’s best map in the game)
Roadhog, like Brigette will most likely get changes to their kit when 2-2-2 is introduced. Developers have said some characters will be getting changes to their kit to make them more viable in a 2-2-2 comp. So maybe Roadhog will be one of them Zarya is very good though. Her ultimate is one of the best in the game.
Ideally you try to balance things so heroes are balanced over every tier. This is why they had to nerf Reaper’s lifesteal even though he’s garbage at diamond+. If they want to buff hog I’m fine with that because I like playing him. But I play him at the same SR as my D.Va, I don’t think he’s awful. Just need to stay in cover a little more to not be an ult battery.
Zarya is in a way better spot than most of the tanks themselves
D.va is good and very flexible, but its making people’s opinion of her overrated despite this.
Hog is really close to being balanced and doesn’t need any major changes.
That is generally the downside to rock-paper-scissors balancing: if you need to pick paper to counter an annoying or overpowered rock in a game that contains mostly scissors, that just means you can choose which part of the enemy team gets to steamroll you.
Having to rely on extremely hard counters to get rid of anything is just a bad surrogate for creating actual balance.
Zarya is very good though. Her ultimate is one of the best in the game.