Nerf D.Va this, nerf D.Va that

No. This is the consequence of 5V5. There will always be one super Tank, there will always be one that’s just better than the rest, there will always be one that just screws you over in particular.

Welcome to 5V5. You will enjoy it.

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I agree, but DVA is unique in that we’ve never seen an S tier tank like this before. The armor change did not buff the tanks evenly, DVA was the clear winner here. She’s so good that inting isn’t even inting anymore-it’s a viable playstyle

As good as Winston was/is… I can’t think of an easier tank to start off 0-3 & contemplate having to switch off

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I think Mauga was better just because any idiot could play him. D.Va at least can’t self-heal and has to manage a finite, albeit lengthy DM.

Either way, Blizzard should either lean into the raid boss gimmick and make all Tanks super OPAF, or just stop with all the BS bandaid passives and make Tanks feel like normal players again, which would only really work in, say it with me now, 6V6.

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Yes we have. Mauga, Orisa, even Hog have all been worse. And I forgot about the Zarya meta in season 1. There was also that time that agony was grape flavored

Also you do realize that Winston, even after his nerf, is still better right?

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“Nerf DVA, this, nerf DVA that. Who’s afraid of the big black bat?”

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Ppl always cry when anyone but rein is the top pick of the tanks.
Nothing new here.

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That was kinda fire.

Remind me when Mauga, Orisa, & Hog could dive…

Wow that is blatant propaganda… it’s ok that your enjoying DVA bro but be realistic

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You didn’t say anything about dive. You said S-tier tank. And I’m reminding you that they’ve all been there. Flats once had an entire tier above S just called Orisa. She had her own tier.

I am being realistic. Sometimes it feels like I’m the only one.

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LOL you got triggered & didn’t read my full post.

I said an S tier tank LIKE what we have now with DVA. Her buffed kit is fine, I like fresh metas too. Her armor is BROKE. The combination of the two allows her to int without repercussion. I won’t even call you out for claiming Hog has ever been S tier(lol)

Ana will always keep Mauga/Hog in check.

Yeah the Orisa metas are rough but she can’t dive you… You don’t have to brawl with her outside OT/last point

Even if we say Zarya is hard counter to DVA(she’s not)… that would be map dependent

LOL get out of here bro, don’t take your hero personally

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I read your full post. You never once mentioned dive specifically. And you mentioned Winston but he’s actually better than she is currently. Winston is S-tier.

Yeah so he was s-tier in one meta even with Ana because Kiriko exists.

She doesn’t have to. She has no fall off. She can snipe you.

No u

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Orisa is a wall with legs, Hog could force people to di(v)e into HIMSELF and Mauga could HARR HARR through any team fight.

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Lord have mercy. Do you not know what inting means?

If you want to waste your time and find evidence of a season where we had top 500/streamer hog mirrors every game I’ll take the L

Yeah I think anyone saying Winston is below A tier after the nerf is flat out wrong… but to make the claim he’s better than DVA right now is outrageous

Happy DVAing, I hope you reach a new peak rank

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Nerf this!

:peach: :dash:

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thats just false…

im so sick of people saying 5v5 is bad, PEOPLE ACTUALLY ENJOY IT

I never wouldve played tank if not for 5v5, 6v6 tanks were just slightly bigger dps. They had no character.

5v5 changed it all, and made tanks, TANKS. They made tanks what they were supposed to be. Tanks are meant to be raid bosses. They are meant to be hard to kill.

Your argument doesn’t even make sense, there have been seasons in this game with no “super tank”. Dva is a problem not because of 5v5, but because of no forethought.

Thats the only problem with 5v5, is no forethought on certain abilities. Like D matrix, had to be buffed sure, but they buffed it too much.

It is absolutely possible to have 5v5 with no overpowered tanks.

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They cried about rein too , you have no idea the insults they will give rein when he is actually meta remember in ow1 when he got 550 hp with more Armor and extra dmg.

The amount of crying that followed.

Current state of tanks is unsustainable in long run for the game, but dva is atleast way more interactable than borissa I’m gold, oh I’m a circus horse spinning javelin now.

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Okay dvas one of the most broken tanks ever seen Im not sure where this mindset of any kind of justification makes sense to you people.

Also we’ve had metas where the tank role was perfectly fine… yall do know before the release of Mauga everything was fine right?

And before the mega tank balance patch everyone was getting along fine?

Like I don’t understand this mindset that we should just leave something absolutely broken because what yall like her I guess?

Because blizzard can’t balance there game they should just give up? But why if all they have to do is this 1 thing and we just go back to pre Mauga period…

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Not by a large margin , she can’t be broken when she has strong counters.

Mauga was dumb and worse.

Also you all never met giga hog of ow1 i guess.

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Okay so the way overbuff works right there will always be 2 consistent things.

Even if the data isn’t 100% accurate you can see when something is clearly clearly pass what should be normal.

And you can see the “Trend” of how the games playing out.

And also cross reference this with top 500

So even if you dont trust it this basic set of information will always always always be true.

Simply having counters dosen’t mean you don’t have an absolutely absurd win and pick rate and kda… Mauga had counters to.

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