Nerf D.Va - Defense Matrix

Increase the cooldown of DM to 2 seconds. This punishes D.Va for bad DMs.

Before you say “D.Va isn’t meta” you should know you’re wrong.
The Tank meta right now is majority D.Va+Winston then some Reinhardt+Zarya on the side for specific maps.

What does this change do?
This change allows for more counterplay around DM, currently you really can’t abuse D.Va for a bad DM.
This nerf opens up space for Zarya and Hammond which in turn opens space for Rein.

D.Va has been S-Tier since she got the instant eat on DM.

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It’s the other way around, bud.

She has been S-tier since release.

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Dude. No.

Don’t start spamming these threads again.

Also D.va is fine. ESPECIALLY 2 second DM

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I’m pretty sure it’s not instant, but hey, I don’t play D.Va so I don’t know, actually yes I play her so I know

no pls dont listen to him/her. instead revert it back to the 4 secs it was previously. thanks.

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Incorrect. On ladder this is the case but the game isn’t and shouldn’t be balanced around ladder. It should be balanced around semi-pro+

What I mean by instant eat is if you have your DM on Zarya and she ults the ground your DM will eat the Graviton Surge. This change removed counter play from D.Va.

So, I am correct…

She 100% was not and in fact trash tier or close to on release. I think some people got on board a bit later and don’t realize Dva got a slight rework along the way.

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No, the meta is what the pros play, not what ladder plays.
And before you say “You’re one of those people who force the meta on your teammates” - No I do not since its better to have people on comfortable heroes than meta heroes in comp. If im coaching a team tho i’ll teach them the meta heroes.

Let’s go with a big No here. I’m sorry if you got your ult ate by a D.Va but that isn’t because DM is OP. It’s because you made a mistake with your ult and she gobbled it up like she is supposed to do. Nerfing DM doesn’t need to happen anymore. Like sheesh, and the D.Va mains are always the ones to get told to “git gud and adapt.”

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alright fine

but give us 8 seconds of matrix uptime to compensate

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Counter play is demeching her… not really hard as zarya. If grav is gettint eaten thats all on you

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There should a new rule on the forums about nerfing tanks. I mean it’s frustrating as it is to play tanks nowadays why do you want to make it harder for them? And I don’t even play main tanks, but I have compassion towards them lol.

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My ultimates are almost never eaten as I don’t play heroes that can have her ultimates eaten. However, I am a coach and one annoying thing is that D.Va is ran everywhere and is viable with every tank. Don’t know what tank to play, play D.Va. She’s too much of a generalist and she often times beats other tanks in their niche such as Hammond and Roadhog.

2 things.
Demeching should not be the only 1 of 2 ways to counter her. The other is to through it against a wall where she has no LOS which was nerfed due to range.

I main tanks…

The only nerf DVA needs, is she shouldn’t be able to use micro missles at the same time as DM

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What Ph4yte said about demeching… but also- my suggestion since the original nerfs of DM has been that DM is especially powerful because of its sheer size, its huge. If they removed the outermost layer of the DM, she would have to aim it more precisely and would be a nerf to its effectiveness. To offset this they could possibly increase the duration again, which would help DVA and her survivability and be QOL improvement for DVA players, while not resulting in a net buff or nerf for DVA. And would make DM less oppresive overall even if I think she is fine as she is right now.

I think I just went back in time. Is it 2017?

OT: D.va is fine, she doesn’t need any nerfs.

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You can’t possibly be serious? Dva bomb killing dva? Dva original bomb cast time was horrid. I could get from one side of the map to the other in the space of time it took for the bomb to go off.

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She’s already punished with the current 2s dm. If she’s not doing it properly, chances are she won’t have it up to eat an ultimate, or to shield a teammate from a blast that would kill them

Either way, another way is to keep shooting at her so she has to use up dm or run.

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Do you also want to remove Trans from Zen? Because he can nullify 80% of all ults?
Or Ana nade, that can nullify a Zen ult?
Or Sombra hack that can cripple every ability-dependent hero?

You know how the heroes work. So instead of throwing a DM nerf into the room, you should rather develop your awareness and tell your team how to shut down someone that can disrupt your next move.

If a Genji ults when Zen has Trans or Lucio has beat, than that was an avoidable mistake.
Getting your grav eaten by D.Va is also an avoidable mistake.
As is to grav when Trans is up and there is no Ana to nade the lump.
It’s not fair to call for nerfs just because a hero with a specific kit and of the same skill can punish your mistakes.

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