Nerf D.Va - Defense Matrix

General Discussion
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How about we balance around ladder where 99.999% of the OW population plays and not around the Pro pickrates in esports nobody cares about anymore.

It’s not 2017 anymore, Dva is a balanced pick and her stats don’t exceed Zarya’s in any form.

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No because its ultimate for an ultimate

No because you can block it consistently and easily.

Again there’s counter play for most heroes

Actually it isn’t always.
Lets say you have blade and Zarya ultimate, you can force trance with blade and then punish them with graviton surge afterward leaving them without trance.

Not really. A good D.Va will be extremely hard to kill and always keep track of you. This means all you can do is throw it against a wall which was nerfed and overall not as consistent.

“Nobody cares about esports”
Sorry to burst your bubble but a sizeable portion of the community does. OWL had a consistent 100k viewers on the english stream. Probably 200k on Twitch and that isn’t counting other channels people watched it from.

Esports is the trickle down. Almost every rank will emulate the top esports teams.

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If you’re having 2017 nostalgia, I’ve been flashed back to end of summer 2016. The community still madly wanted a revert of D.Va’s self immunity to her bomb so people could go back to punishing every D.Va who dared to press Q for their own amusement. But at the same time, since this was Matrix rework #1, which made it actually worth using, people were starting to have a new complaint: D.Va ate my ult! NERF!!!

I agree. If anything, the new heroes they keep releasing and some of the hero reworks themselves have been chipping away at D.Va’s power in nonsensical ways, which I don’t like. If it flies or falls like a projectile, it should be deleted like a projectile. But here we have Symmetra’s newest flying turrets and Hammond’s mines, which all get a free pass to ignore D.Va’s DM. (And don’t give me that nonsense about objects having health =/= projectiles. I can either delete a concussion mine with DM as it’s flying through the air or I can shoot it and destroy it, and it certainly takes more than one bullet to destroy, so it clearly has health too. And no, I’m not complaining about traps and Torb turrets…) Still though, we gotta have our bi quarterly D.Va scream threads… “NERF D.VA!!!11”

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Shes not even s-tier now. Shes mediocre at best.

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This video game is already an ultimate fest as it is. Basically every team fight is decided by biggest amount of Qs pressed everytime, and you wanna nerf the last and only check to ultimate spam there is? Come on…

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I hate D.Va but no. No way.

Only thing I’d ask is to make it’s visual a little brighter. So hard to judge the actual distance of the thing

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They can try to emulate as much as they want, but they will never actually play like pro players as a team. =p Not top 500 or gm players. Why balance around pro player skill levels when nobody can play at that level purely because ladder teamwork is different from pro player teamwork who skrim with their team 24/7?

Also OWL used to have semi-high views on twitch, but that age is long since gone. Contenders or OWWC hardly pull as large numbers.

The meta is forever different for pro players. When ladder players will be rein and zarya majority, pros will be using dva winston. You can’t balance around pro player preferential picks when 99.999% of the population does not play like that, ever.

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“Sizeable portion”
Either the playerbase melted like the forums on a patch day or you don’t know the definition of the expression.

And fail 99% of the time. Even the oh so hated Dive meta never reached past Diamond. And it wasn’t even the best comp in Diamond. There’s no meta trickle.

We don’t need ult counters nerfed, they should be buffed if anything. And DM is the only counter to some ults, Grav is only one of those.

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Have a bad match against a D.va, bud? It’ll be okay. No need to cry nerf every time you have a bad day.

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Well the latter never really worked as d.va could eat it through walls. Los was never s requirement. I did it to hanzos alot

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Lmao y’all too much

D.Va doesn’t need a nerf and she especially doesn’t need a nerf to defense matrix

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Nerfing any tanks should be out of the question right now with the amount of cancer CC and damage burst/spam

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Defense Matrix barely works nowadays. Doomfist, Brigitte, Rein and Zarya are in about every game.

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D.Va is perfectly fine. The Defense Matrix does not last for a very short time and needs to be timed correctly to be used effectively.

It has a long range, but you can’t just spam Defense Matrix willy-nilly. It’s an ability that takes effort and skill to use it effectively. It’s already been nerfed.

I think that D.Va is one of the few heroes in the game who is, dare I say, perfectly balanced right now.

What do you mean? Hasn’t she always been able to instantly “eat” bullets and projectiles with her Defense Matrix? Do you mean after the changes to how her Defense Matrix, with it now having a charge meter instead of a traditional cooldown?

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They’re referring to the removal of travel time for projectiles to be eaten by DM. it was from early 2017.

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Perfectly balanced… Has been and still is by far the best tank in most scenarios. Specially when well coordinated

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Is Zarya not outdoing D.Va in most situations on high rank overbuff right now despite being “map dependent” :thinking:

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That means that the other tank heroes need buffs and some of the annoying anti-tank (and anti-everyone) heroes, specifically Doomfist and Brigitte, need nerfs.

Roadhog has been the worst tank in the game ever since his balance changes last year. Orisa’s projectiles are hard to hit, and her Ultimate is arguably the worst one in the game. I could go on.

I think that Orisa needs more buffs and that Zarya and Hammond need some smaller buffs to move them up the tier list. Winston is in a good place, in my opinion, and while Reinhardt is unfun to play as most of the time, the problem doesn’t lie with Reinhardt but rather with the anti-tank meta with unfair heroes like Doomfist and Brigitte.

D.Va is fine right now, in my opinion.

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Bomb was bad, but even worse was d matrix being a cd ability, not toggle. I would agree with them that she has been S-tier ever since end of season 2.

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Cool let’s nerf Deflect then. It’s not an ultimate and can be used to redirect many ultimates back against the enemy team. /sarcasm

Dva is a great off tank. Yes, she works well with any comp.

Another poster said she is better than Hammond and Roadhog - that’s because Hammond needs some adjustment and Roadhog needs changes. The failings of their kit has nothing to do with Dva’s kit.

Dva is fine. She has had more changes than any other tank. Heck, more than most heroes. Just because she is versatile doesn’t necessitate that she gets more nerfs.

If her being S-tier since like s3 is a reason to call for nerfs, I have several other heroes for you. Including a particular tank which has one of the highest pick and win rates for tanks. Oh and that tank actually prevents more damage on average than Dva. So yeab, lets start needing a bunch of heroes for the reasons you stare are nerf-worthy and ruin the game.

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