You absolutely still can punish them for bad positioning. Methinks you’re just doing a bad job of it!
Or tanks are too strong.
Or they’re just strong enough to do what they’re supposed to do while being fun to play
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They need to tone it done. The game sucks so bad now.
Yeah, it does, though that’s mostly because supports like Ana are too good at what they do.
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I agree. All the characters in overwatch are like disabled, with disabilities. Limited damage. Limited healing.
In MR, the heroes are so heroic! That’s why they don’t really need roleq.
Yep 5v5 tanks are too strong. And if the tank dies, its usually a full retreat, or a wipe. EVERYTIME.
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I think our role has been too strong. I just really hate the S9 changes. Giga tank ruined it for me. Get rid of all this S9 crap, nerf our healing, and call it a day. I prefer more damage-oriented support. People didn’t like the sustain, so I wish went that direction.
Yeah, it’s so stupid. I hate it.
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marvel rivals tanks kinda suck to play, its either play venom or get rolled by a 5dps lobby
Less AOE healing, less self heal, no anti, no cleanse, no grip, and no imo field I wonder why they are less annoying. Then again their tanks are not so broken that support necessitate these skills lol. OW problems really stem largely on hero design/philosophy.
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Support damage is definitely fine, and sustain has been cut with the damage passive being 25%
The amusing part is venom is literally one of the weakest tanks.
We saw early on in season 0 that he was the lowest performing tank on public stats, then official stats confirmed this - With him being the lowest winning tank at every rank on every platform, with the sole exception of bronze on console where he was second lowest, but right back to lowest at every other rank. Guy was literally less than 50% everywhere.
And were already seeing that even with the buffs he got (which lets be real, were quite small), hes still shaping up to be the weakest tank overall on publicstats currently.
That said, i largely prefer tanks in rivals over the tanks in overwatch. Tanks feel tankier in rivals. Partly because of their kits, partly because of how the other roles are designed around them. Tanks are far less frustrating because of what they deal with regularly.
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he is? i always felt he was strong bc he just dives someone, has that annoying health regen ability and then flies away. Maybe bc i dont really play tank on MR bc alot of them feel like crap, hulk is super niche, captain america feels like doggy doo doo, and peni parker is kinda weird.
The tanks i see the most is always dr strange, and i hate his stupid portal bc it makes the game unplayable, i used to play magneto but he gets ran over whenever the other team starts brawling or diving, it feels like poke isnt even a thing in MR
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Go to the marvel rivals heroes page, at the top tab there is a drop down under “heroes” titled “hero hot list”
These are the full stats from net ease themselves. From there you can look at pick rates, win rates, quick play, competitive, and even specific ranks in competitive. At literally every rank, from bronze to grand master and above, venom is below a 50% win rate- Which is the lowest amongst the vanguards.
Once you start getting into competitive this is a huge part of what gets venom killed. He arrives, tries to poke you and maybe hit you with corrosion, then when his health is low he pops shields and goes to swing away.
Only he doesnt - Because the moment he turns is when hes going to get slept. Or frozen. Or grabbed by thor. Stunned by hulk. Grabbed by by buckey (Both his uppercut AND yoink stun venom out of his swing). Hell even hawkeyes melee knock back? That stuns venom out of his swing.
And then his swing is on cooldown- and those shields melt fast, leaving venom with whatever health he had before he tried to leave- Then he dies.
I find venom fun (and come on, its venom- hes a BA), but theres little he does that other tanks dont do
Hulk BTW is literally one of the strongest meta tanks in the game, and at high ranks is one of the most banned heroes. Again just think about / compare - Hulk can be a dive tank like venom. Only his mobility has no cooldown, just a charge mechanic- So he can engage, stick to people like glue, and disengage freely (where venom just has an engage/disengage realistically). Venom slows you that does damage IF youre still with him for 3 seconds? Hulk has a straight up stun. Dive their healers- is one keeping your target alive? Stun them and pommel your initial target. Oh he got stunned trying to leave? Charge another leap. Or pop bubble - and then laugh when they try to do anything.
Oh a big ult coming in? Bubble.
Oh your team mates in trouble? Bubble.
His right click isa range poke that does good damage. During his ult that clap 2 taps people and has a super short cooldown.
And hes got a team up with iron man who is himself, shaping up to be a good hero.
Hulks solid.
Yaaaa, cap feels off. I know some people can 1 trick him to a high level - But this is more a testament to the abilities of those players rather than cap. Cap is only slightly above venom at all ranks.
Gotta think of her as the symmetra of tanks. Struggles a bit on attack modes, VERY powerful in situations where shes allowed to set up, like on defend or capture points where the point is static.
Amusingly enough, peni is the highest winning tank overall - even at high ranks. She hard counters mobile flankers with her spider bots / mines. Just stand in her nest and never again worry about iron fist, black panther, whoever. Ranged stun with only a few seconds for the cooldown. “DONT MESS WITH THE AMAZ” NOPE. “ARMED AND” Nuh uh. “PPUUURREEE CHAO” Nothing. Pure nothing. Sit down.
Strange by default due to hulk being banned regularly is pretty much “the” meta tank. Super solid kit. Magneto is a close second and pairs well with him. Infinite health on that shield. Bubble for himselves or others. Good CC. Decent ult. Rough to “solo” tank with though unless youre a god with your left click and landing consistently high damage.
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Just go have a look at the MR subreddit. Plenty complaints about supports and especially sustain/immortality ults and abilities.
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incorrect, there ALOT of support utilities visible by the enemy team, mantis sleep, dagger bubble, cloaks cloak, luna freeze, but the difference between ow2 support and mr support is that MR support does not have self healing sustain, other than mantis and sue storm (which cant heal mid fight btw) none of the supports can heal themselves AND fight back at the same time, lets look at overwatch
brig
ana
bap
moira
kiri
illari
and even lifeweaver by technicality
all except LW deal more or the same amount of EFFECTIVE damage as a dps in a 1v1 and all of them have EASIER ways of applying that damage, so effectively, THEY ARE DPS WITH SELF HEALING. and THAT is annoying.
PS: i realise that there are only about two supports that can heal while fighting back but they are under strict conditions doing so
AW(adam warlock) can heal himself with soulbound and e, but both are extremely long cooldowns, and baiting both of these essentially disables his kit as a support
daggerfalls under the same category with her dome, its her one of the only parts of her kit that actually does high HPS and using it for herself is an extremely selfish play that makes her useless at healing for 12 seconds.
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that’s why MR doesn’t need roleq
the game is balanced on arrival
As a occasional zen player on support i disapprove of this notion 
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The Tanks of MR are not great. OW2 wins this category by far! 
A 5 shot discord headshot will certainly make someone think twice about coming your way
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