Moira has no lock-on 👏

If it were we wouldnt be having this debate. I and many others maintain Moira has, at the very least, a soft-lock, which as a type of lock-on by extension means … Moira has lock-on.

The only reason Moira playrs fight this inevitable truth is because they know the devs are turning against lock-on heroes.

No Moira player is worried about Blizzard nerfing lock-on heroes because Moira doesn’t have lock on, so it wouldn’t affect them.

So Hanzo has soft hitscan, got it.

if we can add the term soft to anything which means “not at all, in any way”, then we can say Hanzo has soft hitscan.

which… if we follow your line of reasoning, Hanzo is Hitscan.

They are sick of people being completely wrong about their hero?

If you don’t understand EVEN the basics, and then people will mock you.

So this hitscan hanzo, do you think he has soft flight?

There can’t be a soft hitscan, because projectile heroes in no way check the crosshair before firing. It’s a binary difference, whereas lock on is a spectrum.

except it isn’t. Either the hitbox is changing in size or it isn’t.

In Moira’s case it does not.

So on a spectrum from “doesn’t have lock on” to “has lock on” she is in the “doesn’t have lock on” bit.

Either the hitbox is changing in size or it isn’t.

How does that have anything to do with lock-on?

No it isn’t. Either somethings locks on, or it doesn’t.

Everything. That is how lock on works.

The other thing it does is ignore people who walk in front of the target while it is hitting someone.

Which her beam doesn’t at all either.

There is 0 difference between her beam and Sym’s new beam in the way it works. (except you can’t spycheck with Moira)

So, we know Syms new beam is not lock on. since, the devs have straight out said so.

So how is Moira’s beam working differently than a Sym beam with a big hitbox?

Because if the answer is “it doesn’t” then you don’t have a lock on right?

That’s an argument that Moira doesn’t have hardlock. But she clearly has softlock, in that the beam partially tracks the target for you. Unlike hitscan, where the server cant “partially” check the target and crosshair for a lineup before registering the hit.

Animation is not the weapon.

It does NOT partially track the target for you.

It looks like it does, because of how it is animated, but looking like someone and being something are VERY different beasts.

Symm used to have a lock on and it was fixed to require aiming, I think introducing this tech to Moira would help increase the skill cap needed for her.

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Anything in the cone in front of Moira it continuously applies damage to whilst they’re in it; that’s a lock on to me.

Omg, pls yes. Make them feel our pain.

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Anything in the cone in front of SYM it continuously applies damage to whilst they’re in it.

But we know Sym isn’t lockon.

You may note Sym doesn’t have to have her beam touching the model either to do damage. but her hit box is smaller.

Except Sym’s cone is much narrower, to the point that it’s almost a point. Moira’s is very wide.

Yes, that is her hitbox.

Moira’s one is big, which no one disagrees with.
Syms one is small, which no one disagrees with.

So where is the lock on? Because a big hitbox is not lock on.

You don’t say Mercy’s pistol is lock on, nor Mei’s icicle, but they have large hitboxes.

Like I said, it’s a spectrum. Sym’s is far too narrow to be a lock on, Moira’s is too wide not to be.

EDIT: Mercy and other projectile heroes fire discrete shots, which is the dfference there.

lock on has NOTHING to do with hitbox size.

hitbox size is how you describe it.

Moira has a massive hit box, which makes her aim trivial.

But she DOESN’T have lock on, you can body check a Moira.

lock on has NOTHING to do with hitbox size.

Not what you were saying earlier.

ok fair enough, it DOES have to do with how the hitbox changes in size after the connect, (like Sombra’s hack) and how it ignore body blocks (like sombras hack)

But a large hit box is not lock on, because all it is, is a large hit box.