šŸ“¢ Minimum 10 min queue for support

This.

Rein/Zarya > All.

Instead of implementing stupid hero bans they couldā€™ve tried to make the rest of the tanks at least viable.

If you guys are unable to make this game fair and fun just delete every single tank except Reinhardt and Zarya, at least that way both teams would be balanced.

Do you know that feeling you get when your team is running Hog/D.Va against Rein/Zarya? Yeah, the moment you get out the spawn you know youā€™re about to get steamrolled.

This game is getting so boring to play. Always the same comps. No creativity allowed. You canā€™t play the heroes you want for a week. Unbearable queues. Nonsense matchmaking. What a mess.

Itā€™s more about having to do DPS role anyway, because your role-specific methods of saving teammates are generally weak.

what platform do you play on?

Please stop posting this. Tanks do not need more damage, they already do more than enough damage as it is.

Tanks do shape the outcome of the fight, arguably more than the DPS or supports. If your tanks are being passive thatā€™s a problem with the player, not the tank itself.

If theyā€™d just make some sexy girl tanks then people would main them and weā€™d see all 3 roles more or less have equally balanced queuesā€¦(imo)

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I have friends who has told me heā€™s a major double standard person in the forums (citing winrate for widow but disregarding it for mei, iirc), I didnā€™t believe it then, but based on thisā€¦ I might not take his word any seriously since now onā€¦his debate skills in this post is exposed to be at most 10-year-old lvlā€¦

Thisā€¦ I would fall for it. I am not even in the mood to joke about Hogā€™s physics just because this game is THAT desperate for an attractive female tank. And no, Dvaā€™s freaking mech does not count.

That was a lot to readā€¦

My problem with tanks is the feeling to rely too much on the others. I played some duo queue recently with a main heal, and all that happened was my healer getting dove by flankers. Space was made, but as soon as I lost my healer, it was difficult to overcome the fight.
I switched a lot for two tanks (I play main tank) :

  1. Zarya whenever we needed more DPS on front line and I know I can count on my healer as my bubble could cleanse me from bio-nade.
  2. Roadhog whenever I needed to protect my backlane from doomfist/tracer as I can kill them consistently (Iā€™m not good enough with D.Va)

Maybe because of this ā€œneed your team to not be toy of the ennemiesā€, a lot of tanks or actually not solo queuing anymore. In my team, my main tank donā€™t play queue as tank without my Ana, because whenever he try it, he feel alone at trying to play the game. Healers donā€™t know when to DPS or Heal, off tank donā€™t hold the fort with him.

Tanks are an absolute needed to win, but they depends too much on their team.
As DPS you have a lot of options. Lack of heal ? Mei, Soldier, Sombra, Tracer, Doomfist. Lack of space ? Mei, Sombra, Tracer, Echo, Doomfist.
As a heal, you got some too. Lack of DPS ? Ana, Moira are really fine. Lack of peel ? Brigitte.
As a tank, what if you need damage ? Zarya but you need to be charged firstā€¦ So roadhog. Needs more heal ? Roadhog, Hammond.

Can you do a DPS job as Mei, Sombra, Doomfist, Tracer ? yes
Can you do a Heal job as Moira, brigitte or Ana ? Yes
Can you do a tank job as roadhog ? I donā€™t thinkā€¦ Maybe Iā€™m wrong, but I donā€™t see a Roadhog hold a frontline like a Rein/Orisa would

Stop lumping all silvers in with one guy on the forums.

1-3-2 easy fix for queue times

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Cute.

But I realized winrate is a really convoluted stat that doesnā€™t mean much.

šŸ•Š Maybe just give Mercy 60hps - #179 by GreyFalcon-11737

Itā€™s actually kinda funny how much people talk about a number, but somehow donā€™t care about the math involved.

As for ā€œdebatingā€ it was more like trying to have a discussion with a salty DPS main, who is more concerned about losing a couple SR, than the catastrophic death of the entire game.
As if fixing queue times is ā€œoptionalā€, and not do-or-die.

Itā€™s kinda hard to have a ā€œdebateā€ with someone who would rather see the entire game die, rather than give Tanks more influence.

What? You think tanks donā€™t like playing against somebody who can fly behind them, do a bit of cheap damage with sticky bombs, then melt them with the highest damage beam in the game, which requires no charge-up for some reason?

Because your current spam is considered to be utterly pathetic by everyone that keeps seeing in every thread unfortunate enough to have youā€™re presence.

In master I found this to be the case for a while now; likely because barrier tank is even worse at that rank since people are better at remembering they can shoot shields.

So do you think itā€™s better that the entire game dies due to bad queue times, rather than make it so Tanks are more desirable to play?

this is the dumbest thing iā€™ve ever seen posted, HOLY LMAO

Because keeping Tanks ā€œsturdy but boringā€ is the best way to make it so queue times never improve, right?

Well, only for 2 out of 3 roles. Iā€™m pretty sure in plat you get matched instantaneously when you queue as a Tank.

By the way, Iā€™m in upper gold and have no issues finding games in under 3 minutes.

thatā€™s what you get when you implement a role lock without an autofill mechanic, people warned them, they didnā€™t listen and continue to ignore us.
honestly, everyone will probably jump to valorant, paladins or even go back to TF2.