Fun is always subjective, but you can absolutely still do that with Mercy, she doesn’t doesn’t do it in a way that’s as visible to everybody (like shooting somebody in the face with orbs or something). It doesn’t make it any less of a big or impactful play. If you find value in visibility and recognition, Mercy definitely isn’t the way to go. She wins games without the glory and that’s fine. It works well with her character.
Unless you can go up to all these people, ask and keep a record of how many people like reworked Mercy, I think I’ll end this arguement right here.
You two need therapy
Yeah… That’s not supposed to be the primary use of Valkyrie and using it that way got it nerfed.
It could… but 50 HPS can’t even defend against basic focus fire, much less ultimates.
Which part exactly? The heal isn’t proactive. The Boost is useless unless your team is ready to go in. The Blaster is… but… well we covered that
The only reactive part is the healing… which we’ve gone over.
Sounds like Wraith Form… Ice Cocoon… or Rewind… aka an E.
Sounds like a movement ability… which 80% of the cast that has one has it on their Shift or E.
Gluing several E’s together that you can’t even use at the same time and making it last 15 seconds doesn’t make it an ult.
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Well it’s a much better way to concentrate feedback then spamming the forums with these “Mercy is unfair” threads, instead of just making a megathread so we can actually talk about other character’s problems.
Sombra, Bastion and Torbjorn are DEFINITELY more important than mercy’s problems right now.
The megathread gets ignored, it’s just made to silence mercy feedback. I don’t blame people for not using it
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Yeah well, when every other DPS has an aimbot team wipe ult, I don’t see why there shouldn’t be at least ONE counter for it.
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People aren’t “bored” of anything. They aren’t looking for a new dominant healer. Ana used to be a must pick in season 3 and people made them nerf her. All we want is to have both Ana and Mercy as viable picks. And nerfing Mercy isn’t gonna help Ana’s current situation. She’s weak. No self heal. No mobility no high damage. N O T H I N G
And Mercy is so boring and frustrating to play. Yet she’s a must pick. This has to change
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Every ult such as that is negated by shielding and cover, But losing 2-3 teammates locks the deal that your team has won the teamfight. (Where ults usually aren’t needed.)
I think you were foolish to disagree with it to begin with.
Personal opinion is not the majority. Your argument would have been better had you said most people didn’t care either way, which is much more likely.
While Mercy does have her own issues comparing the listed ults they all have obvious counterplay, where as Mercy’s original ult did have counters they weren’t as obvious to most people. Simple ult economy was the best counter. It’s not always stopping it as most would believe but being prepared, I mean you have quite a bit of time while Mercy’s team can’t move during which they are easily set up for things like high noon and self destruct not too mention the positional advantage the enemy team has.
Honestly this revert, because that’s what this rework basically is, (Valkyrie existed in the beta and was removed due to it not feeling impactful and as for the slow on res also removed) can’t really be balanced without destroying the character. At this point we need to aim for a new rework. Theres plenty of good topics and suggestions on these forums.
Since I know people are going to comment on old res being purely hide and use that was an issue that could be easily fixed. The old res involved allot more thought then now such as; which enemies have or are closer to having their ult, do I save res in case of a wipe and will I be able to survive or do I use it to bring back our two damage dealers, who on my team has ult, where are they positioned, and so forth.
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It feels like nothing. Really, at least 60HPS could help in the fight. But now even that was nerfed. Mercy feels like a lamp post, because she just feels like ‘‘your average sidekick’’.
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When I said offensively, I didn’t mean as a means for Mercy to engage a team by herself, though she can absolutely still use it to assassinate isolated enemies (I sometimes erase PharMercys or snipers with it). I meant as a way to start a push and come in with your team all damage boosted.
If 50 hps is worthless, then why is her base healing beam at 50hps? Is she just generally worthless? How is healing multiple targets for that amount not amazing? Imagine if Lucio’s boost was amped to 6x its normal amount or if Ana could hit all 5 teammates at the same time with darts.
Proactively as in a means to engage or for quick opening positioning for something else. She can fly and go really fast.
Reactively as a means to turn around a team fight your team might otherwise lose by healing or boosting everyone at the same time.
You can save yourself from death by using Valk as a means to escape, stop yourself from falling to your death, or to throw some permanently regenerating health on yourself for 15 seconds.
Yeah, everyone has movement abilities, but not that they can use in concert with every other one of their abilities at a high speed (while literally flying).
It’s not gluing Es together. It’s essentially popping epic mult-tasking flexibility flight mode with all of her abilities amped up considerably. How is that less of an ult than anything else in the game?
Mass rez was both visible and impactful… But yeah I agree on some degree with your statement.
She’s a pacifist… I am not, I will drop someone so fast with mercy.
Again, we do not need to discuss in a fan-made megathread when we are not required to.
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Again, it is better to focus your unrest in one place rather than clouding/oppressing other problems in order to give yours more notice.
By spamming threads like these, you take away notice from other problems that are more important.
It works when I do it. It’s really rare that I lose a team fight after popping Valk, but that’s because I know when to pop it. /shrug
You mean feedback. Also, if others can post freely on the forums, I don’t see why we have to be restricted to one section of the forums other than the fact that people like you get upset over mercy feedback. If we have to be restricted to one area of the forums, so does everyone else who decides to give feedback for a hero.
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I’m also just sick of “frustrating to play against” as a reason for ult gutting.
I mained healers for a good while. Nothing exemplifies “frustrating to play against” better than than Riptire, but that just got buff after buff. Dragon Blade makes the list too, but that’ll never be touched either.
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Sure being annoying will definitely make people support your cause. Also breaking the forums rules and posting and re-posting the same things over and over again, sure will make the devs revert Mercy… 
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