Mercy needs more nerfs, change my mind

Or a wall. Walls work nicely. Walls and slowly walking backwards while rezing.

Agreed. Many people were giving good suggestions to help improve mas rez, but even though Blizzard loves to say ‘hey, post your suggestions and we’ll consider them!’ they never actually do that for mercy and decided to go a completely different direction :confused:

Moira heals more, and heals everyone at once.
She also does damage.

Moira cannot rez.
Moira cannot enable Hanzo to deal enough damage to burn through trans. (damage boost)
Moria does not have an ability that gets from one side to another by pressing a button on a 2s cooldown (i think that’s the cd)
Moira does not have the ability to restart a widow vs widow fight.
Moira does not have 2 escape mechanisms (shift and valk)
Moira does not have the ability to fly around in the sky with half the roster unable to hit you.
Also Moira does not have an almost 100% pick rate.
Also Moira runs out of heals, and I’m sure someone posted stats of which hero is healing more and it was Mercy on top.

Like it says you’re level 11 on here so I think you’re new to the game unless it’s a smurf but yeah anything plat and above Mercy is played a lot and gives her team an advantage.

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It’s also not even true.

Mercy buff is getting removed.

Which is a good thing I guess :man_shrugging: hopefully they do it fast.

“improving” mass res (as in LoS checks etc) wouldn’t fix the problem.

Pretty sure they already stated mass Rez wont come back… Also I’d probs uninstall the game if it comes back…

And yet before her rework she was overlooked in favor of Lucio and Zenyatta. Even though Mercy healed more than the two of them together because Mass Rez was garbage. It was so garbage that first they had to buff it to Mercy could actually move while using it. Then they had to buff it so teammates come back faster because even without ult, the 3 second delay gave everyone time to kill Mercy and put themselves in position to kill everyone else. Lastly, they had to give her invulnerability during Mass Rez so it could actually be used. People remember the times she got the 5 man rezzes and forget the million to 1 ratio where she at most got three people in her Rez and used ult very rarely to attempt to get that mass rez. It was a bad ult and she was a bad support IN COMPARISON to the other options available even if it meant less healing. The rework and putting Rez on E was the problem.

In ult form it was garbage and in CD form its extremely powerful. So they can attempt a complete rework with rez still or attempt a tweaked revert with Valkyrie incorporated somehow. (Also remember they reverted her ult voice line so who knows? They might have been planning a revert for a while as the change happened after they said they weren’t considering one). My point is, Resurrect isnt going away period. Its very powerful but that is in exchange for her complete reliance on her team to position herself and a lack of damage output. Every one of her abilities doesn’t benefit her at all (GA and Rez are useless without a teammate as well as her heal or DB), in contrast to every other support. This is in spite of the fact that Mercy can deal a minimum of 100 damage per second landing only body shots, which is decent but it never sees use and thus her drawback. She gives up any protection she has and must resort to running away or whipping out her pistol to let another teammate die.

I think Lucio in his current form would’ve gotten less play back then than Mercy. His reduced radius is what made him more situational and composition-based.

Considering it was such a bad ult in that it had to be buffed again and again and again to even be viable, how can you rationalize that? Even with Lucio and Zen doing less healing than Mercy together, Mercy was overlooked in favor of them. Symmetra had a higher pickrate than Mercy at that time. Mass Rez was the worst ultimate in the game.

She was in a good place before her rework. But blizzard decided to fix a problem that didn’t need to be fixed. I don’t like the current version of Mercy, but I think it’s time to look at the other supports instead.

She defiantly wasn’t in a good place before rework.
She also isn’t in a good place now.

Basically what Ashwynn said. Someone already made a thread considering Mercys weaknesses and strenghts. Here you go! :slight_smile:

This was back before they made the changes, and then when they had said ‘we will change them if people don’t like them’
the changes would have been largely los - if you can hide behind it and survive a d.va nuke, then you won’t be rezed. no more rezing behind walls or from spawn. line of sight and area of effect would have been the first two things added.

Amanda needs more nerf, change my mind.

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Moira does more burst healing. Mercy still has a better average healing than Moira, even in Master and GM.

Moira’s has no choice but to do damage to continue her healing output. Which is why she falls off so hard in higher elo’s, because it’s easy to deny her the chance of doing damage with barriers and snipers playing range.

1.5 seconds in any direction for 30m+bunny hop vs 6 second for 15m. No, Moira gets one chance to escape and if that fails she has to fight her flanker like every other healer aside from Mercy, and maybe Lucio.

Over time, moira heals more.

As for getting away. Mercy always goes in a straight line, making for an easy hanzo shot.
Moira can go where she wants.
As for fighting, would you rather defend yourself against someone as moira or mercy?

You can check overbuff and master overwatch yourself. On average Mercy outheals Moira, for some reason.

Average =/= potential healing.
Most moira players go for some damage, but most mercy players don’t.
If both focus only on healing the moira heals more.