Mercy just dropped below 50% winrate in GM

Cry me a river. This game all of a sudden became fresh after Mercy was nerfed. Let it stay that way.

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I get that, but I think that you’d want an even distribution, or one that doesn’t stand out as a outlier. Like a standard deviation graph: there’s always going to be someone at the bottom, but if they are so far out of the “normal” part of the graph, you have to question why that is. To me, it’s not that she has a sub 50% win rate, it’s that 3% (which in the case of a game like this IS stat significant as balance is a key element) difference of the next lowest hero. She stands out like a sore thumb.

In addition, you have to look at the fact that while I don’t agree Mercy is any significantly less skillful then other healers (She has a lot different set of skills in terms of positioning and field awareness), she is designed to be a more introductory healer. And even in that case, she’s struggling with being 5th out of 6 at most of the lower tiers, places where she should be shining. It’s like the Tjorb argument: yes, he’s got a higher win rate then other heroes that are picked more often: but he’s a specialist that gets used in the right situation, so there’s a reason behind that difference between other heroes. For Mercy, I can’t point to anything specific to say: “yeah, that’s the reason for it” other then the major healing nerf she took.

To me, the combination of those two are an indication that something’s significantly wrong.

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Basically she dropped below 50% in every rank.

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I always see this argument, and my question is: why?

I mean, there is a middle ground here. A hero can be somewhere between good and bad. They can be average. Don’t get me wrong: the meta has opened up a tiny bit with the Mercy nerf. Yes, that was a good thing in the short-term of OW. However, there is a place where Mercy can be somewhere in the middle: which probably has to do specifically with her healing per second output being slightly buffed (not to the levels before the nerf, but somewhere in between).

I see the problem as the lack of speed regarding adjustments. Via the sheer amount of players, 2 weeks after a nerf should be enough to make more adjustments to bring them back to “normal” levels. Why that isn’t done more frequently is the question.

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Like I said in a thread elsewhere…if she can’t compete with the other healers (according to blizz’s data and not overbuff) then she will get buffed…

But it’s not proof of anything other than she’s weak at the moment…blizz can work on that…as opposed to some of the other arguments you get thrown around here

No. No buffs to this awful version of her.

I continue to advocate for a second rework

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what happened to winston, pls buff feels bad man
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Isn’t that Roadhogs winrate for decades now?

Isn’t this post about Mercy?

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While I do thing Roadhog needs a buff, the difference here is that stat wise, he falls in line in terms of the distribution between all other tanks. Again, there’s always going to be a bottom hero, and Roadhog is the bottom in most ranks with Winston. However, the difference between the top hero and the bottom is 3%, and the next hero is only 1% or so. There’s a more even distribution between tanks, and it just so happens that a lot of the stronger heroes at the moment are ones that Roadhog struggles with. So in this case, I can see why they aren’t necessarily looking at him directly.

With that said, given the TIME he’s been in the bottom spot (last year or so), a slight buff would make sense.

It has certainly become a problem. Even in the rank where many assumed Mercy to “shine” in, such as Gold and below, her winrates are currently at a low 48%, dropping to a paltry 45% in bronze.

Overall, I think we can agree that this rework has been a huge failure. In it’s attempts to make her more engaging, she has arguably been the least impactful she’s ever been, in the attempts to make her more balanced, she’s been struggling between either being OP or being borderline a troll pick.

It’s officially been an entire year of Valkyrie. And during that time, there hasn’t been more discourse over Mercy, hatred against Mercy mains, and overall unhappiness with her kit, since it made Mercy a must pick for 5 months straight. I predict that they will continue to struggle with her as long as res is on a 30 second E ability. It’s simply not designed to be an E move, and these stats prove it consistently throughout the course of this rework’s life.

It’s time for Mercy to achieve true, fair and fun balance again. It’s time to put Mercy’s ultimate in it’s rightful place, on Q as mass res, where it belongs, and tweak it properly from there (LoS, vulnerability, etc.) It’s time for a revert. :blush:

“This was a huge success.”


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I like it like this, high skills play Ana, lower tiers play mercy. I always advocated Ana to be played exclusively at high elos.

Except… most low tiers aren’t playing Mercy, they’re playing Moira.


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But that’s the thing: even at the lower ranks: Mercy is struggling, where she “should” be good. If this is the logic, then she needs a buff based on that.

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Or even Ana, she’s actually picked significantly more in Gold than Mercy is there… and while Mercy is picked more in silver the difference is less there.

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Oh good, I’m happy after so long this is finally happening!

Anyways, realize usually only 2 healers are played in a meta… Right now it’s Ana Lucio. With the occasional swap to other off healers. Well if you’re not trying to throw this is what you run.

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Are you implying Mercy is a throw pick now?

That would certainly suggest she is not in an ok spot

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That’s true. I guess that destroys the whole “Mercy is played more in Low tiers!” argument. :blush:

Wait… Before you said you liked the fact that Mercy is played in low tiers, and now you’re seemingly happy that she isn’t played much at all. Which is it then?


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OMG YOU GUYS!

Did you hear!? Mercy is no longer the #1 undisputed most necessary hero in the game!

It only took a whole year to get to this point. Fudging finally. The game feels way better now.

No, Ana lucio and Moira were all throw picks during the mercy Zen meta.

It’s how the healer meta works.

Its how it works in every game.

(also Moira and brig might have inflated Winrates due to GOATS comp.)