hes second there, and yet people still complain about doom and genji. I need to know blizz, how do you always keep a hitscan on top, an easy hitscan at that.
He’s always been a popular pick in Bronze to Masters.
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not number one with a 4 percent differnce to his second place competitor, this game is a joke
probably all the ex-widow players playing him more now since his survivability is better than widow atm
or they just abuse his insane dps uptime and self peel, hes gotten 21+ buffs and they panic when hes suboptimal for a month while doom has been garbage bottom half in all ranks for a year
Winrate is such a botched variable, i was saying this whilst they were all crying that he has the worst winrate, truth is Cree has been on top for ages and people are straight up in denial, he was great before bans, then during bans him and widow got banned every other week, since then hitscan have dominated, literally every single time this character gets a nerf his fanboys cry and he gets buffed again almost instantly whilst other characters just get crushed and ignored for unfair reasons.
People don’t realise that winrate is made of so many other variables, the easiest one to talk about is pickrate also goes into it, the more people that pick the character means that win percentage is the percentage of a much higher number, then there are varaibels from game to game, literally not a single match is the same, then rank to rank, player to player, these variables are not a valid way of balancing the game.
another confusion seems to be that cree is a “flanker” and sure, he can flank if you’re good, but generally he’s anti dive… look at his kit, he has no mobility or sustainability… meaning he’s not a good flanker… “oh cree has a bad winrate, he’s an awful flanker!” no, you’re a mong you dosen’t understand variables or your heros role.
I’ll fully admit that cree isn’t the easiest character, though he’s not hard to understand, he’s one of the more simple characters in Overwatch, he’s probably the most basic character in the game excluding soldier.
He’s been on top for ages, so many fun and unique characters such as Doom and Genji have been dirt for ages, yet cree mains are STILL crying that he sucks when he straight up dosen’t suck.
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cool essay but yea pretty much
Most picked != best dps. He’s always had a fairly high pick rate even when he was garbage. He still has a pretty low win rate at all ranks.
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yea if your second place in gm it usually means there is something wrong, especially if you were “garabge” before? His winrate becomes even due to him having such a high pickrate. If he gets mirrored every match his winrate will be close to 50.
Mccree top dps in every rank except gm
Good.
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His pick rate is not even close to mirror picks in every match, nor nearly high enough to start forcing winrate towards 50%.
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a quarter of the dps is more then enough in stastistics, let alone winrate is bad anyways. Bastion isn’t better then mccree because bastion has a higher winrate. If mccree is better then soldier after the buffs then hes too strong, it usually means that sustain is a lot stronger and you can’t really push anything, when soldier is a good pick thats when the game is in a healthy spot
That’s not how statistics works. It takes a fairly low sample count to get an accurate representation of the data, but this says nothing about what the data actually is. There are other heroes like Sigma with a much much higher pick rate that also have significantly higher winrates.
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I think I’d rather see McCree/Tracer/Soldier/Genji as top DPS, instead of Ashe/Widow/Hanzo/Doom.
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heros like widow which are considered strong and also have lower winrates, winrate is a flawed statistic due to the ability to switch, please stop using it to represent heros on such a large scale
Ah I see, the ol’ “My interpretation of the statistics are flawless and you’re just wrong” argument. Neither pick rate nor win rate alone will tell you anything, and even together they only paint a small picture with limited accuracy.
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this is where the classic “please learn the game and use past infrences to make a guess on whats happening” comes in. When mccree was on top, it was when goats happened, double shield, literally any sustain comp
I love playing McCree. I feel he is a well designed hero. His only weakness is he is kind of dependent on his team for resources, but every hero needs some weaknesses.
McCree was definitely not on top during GOATS and double shield.
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in every rank except gm he was top 3 yes