How the forum defends strong heroes

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I have made lots of buffs putting my takes on buffs

here is a post from 5 months ago when mccree got buffed

I just don’t see why it takes so long for balance to reach the forums and knock them

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I don’t know if I’m just tired from work, but what did I just read?

(This isn’t meant to be a rude remark, I just genuinely don’t understand this thread)

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sorry english is my first language

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What is the point of this topic? McCree is fine as far as balance is concerned. Maybe you have other gripes with him, I dunno, but trying to influence balance because you’re annoyed that he’s played is a separate discussion.

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Explain what you mean, I’ll have a better time understanding then

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Hitscan favouritism is ruining this game.

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ran I am annoyed because he is way too strong, how is he still on live game after 5 months of utter domination in every rank

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Hes complaining that mccree is too strong and the forums defend him

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Sorry, I read that you’re not speaking your first language but I’m still a bit confused. Can you explain?

  • Are you upset that mccree is strong?
  • That the forums defend strong heroes?
  • Or that it takes a while before the forums realize a hero is strong and this time happens to be mccree?
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my first language is english

I have come to accept that mccree will be forever strong

I am upset it took so long for the forums to realize

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Oh lol I misread your initial reply to someone else earlier (probably habit)

Yeah I agree

Hmm a lot plays into that. McCree has been strong for a long time imo but part of that comes from people being 100% dedicated to meta analysis . If the meta hasn’t settled, you’re crazy.
For example:

I totally called baptiste broke and on this thread and everywhere else I posted this view, people said I was crazy. Baptiste was the fastest hero I ever saw turn meta after buffs were initially not thought to do anything.

But he wasn’t considered even good for most players until some month later when he was then META.

If it isn’t meta, and top of the top… Its not an issue. We see this also with Ana. Who may not be THE META but she never drops below a top 1-3 pick. Ever.

But that’s a big social factor we have very little control over.perception and influence is beyond any one user commentary

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You are right, add content drought, smurf issue, cheaters, throwers, more smurfs, disconnected dev team from community, Patch to change heroes still takes to long into it, and we are about on the right track why the game is going downhill since Goats.

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McCree’s unreal pickrates are evidence enough that he’s overtuned. Literally the top DPS across all ranks and in most cases, his pickrate is over twice that of the second most picked DPS. He’s managed to evade a ton of debuffs that other DPS have gotten, and has kept at least 3 pretty sizeable buffs that he absolutely does not need anymore.

And no, pickrates in GM do not equate to “oh its just because people like playing him!”. GM players have always picked the strongest heroes, that’s why they’re GM. If it was just a popularity thing, then past GM metas would have never included heroes like Orisa, Brig, or even Sym, ever. He’s overtuned and there’s no avoiding that truth.

Will he be nerfed in the upcoming experimental? I seriously doubt it, as 2 hitscan players are on the “board” for it, and knowing hitscan mains they’ll probably accept another brig meta before letting their mains be nerfed at all.

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it’s not even Mccree’s fault. Blizzard’s unawareness is actually terrible. They need to realize that buffing certain heroes will make other heroes necessary to play. For instance, at one point Ashe and Tracer were necessary to play because not only was Tracer buffed, but Sigma/Ball were being played, enabling a poke comp / tracer ball dive.

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Would explain all the Roadhog defenders here.

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You know he didn’t use to be able to deploy shield while in Ball form.

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Yeah I overlooked that, my statement is a false one so I will go ahead and delete it.

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If hitscan is not consistently strong, can this game still call itself a “shooter” game?

Hitscan’s dominant will just take the form of either Widow, Ashe or Cree, or Soldier (if Cree gets nerfed hard.) It feels better to die to the gun than die to some kind of abilities.

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most shooter games use projectiles

and flashbang helix dynamite are all abilities