it finally dawned on me that problem has evolved beyond just “blizz fix matchmaker”
it can no longer be fixed. after years of a low-integrity matchmaker, all of the true competitives are gone.
There is nothing left but boosted vermin.
Competitive as it is will always be toxic and honestly a waste of time.
There is no reward or pleasure from climbing in overwatch and it shows
this is such a tragedy and blatant display of incompetence from the matchmaking and competitive developers
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I believe this game will die a true death when Diablo comes out.
I think with covid and marketing it has kept it alive. I do believe at its core… it has a wonderful concept, but the game wont die of 1k paper cuts - but 2 huge gaping gashes, 1 being the match maker and 2 not actively teaching people how to play.
Maybe I’ll add some more cuts,
leavers
smurfs
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Just look at comp like it’s quick play. Don’t care about your rank.
I can guarantee you that while not all games will feel competitive per se, you’ll start enjoying the game again and eventually feel that competitive spirit return.
Just have to accept that you can’t control your teammates. Do the best you can with what they provide.
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You are right about one thing. I love playing Overwatch but if new Diablo will come and if it will be good, overwatch will die for me.
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As others have said, it becomes fun again when you treat it like quick play with better rules. If they hadn’t changed the quick play format I probably would’ve never left. My personal suggestion is to turn off voice and text chat and just mess around doing whatever you want. I’ve been inting as rein on one of my alts every single game and I’ve never had more fun
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NOmegalul…
“Cries in hard-stuck”
Someone else explained this a lot better.
Overwatch (and essentially all competitive ladder games), the ladder isn’t necessarily intended to be climbed.
The point is to show you where you rank against all the other players of the game. That’s why there are below average ranks, average ranks, above average ranks, and exceptional performance ranks.
An individual who places on the ladder knows where they belong. Within a certain degree of deviation a player is capable of playing in higher brackets (games like Valorant and CSGO have Gold 1, 2 3 for example).
To advance into the next bracket requires that you exceed the performance of your current bracket to the point where you can no longer lose 50% of the games you play in.
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I personally prefer not to smurf in low/average Elo for a number of reasons, but I know a couple of friends who do.
The comment they make is, low Elo (Bronze/low-mid silver) have a decent amount of players (no better than low plat) who play on alt accounts with less skilled friends. Because (said friends are smurfing) they can overcome these average players contending in lower ranks without much issue.
The comment that a majority of them make is the lower ranked players refuse to accept that they need to work together to overcome the more skilled individuals. It’s not as hard as people think to take down “smurfs.”
We have Smurf’s in the higher elos as well and when that happens, teamwork intensifies, or the game is lost and you GG Go Next.
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you are literally part of the problem trying to drum up arguments for why you arent part of the problem
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No. I just understand how a ladder system works. It’s no different than a student ranking system for top universities and private education facilities.
There will always be people better than other people. And that’s not a bad thing.
In school, you think it’s fine to skirt by with a 2.5 GPA. You’ll get your degree, same as those who strive to be above average. No different here.
We all get the same participation trophies at the end of the competitive season.
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Lmao this metaphor is so easy to destroy it’s not even funny. Using your student example, students are compared using standardized testing and they are ranked accordingly (weighed based on cocurriculars and income status of course being ignored here). For university ranking to compare to overwatch ranked you would have the students repeatedly take tests with the underperforming students being given easier and easier tests that are weighted the same as the overperforming who are rewarded by having to take progressively harder tests. Absolute geniuses could brute force through the system but any student with any variance towards the middle (even the edges of the middle) would find themselves stuck in the mire of the central rankings with a similar ranking to underperforming students
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NOmegalul… I don’t remember taking standardized tests in engineering school. Please tell me more 
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That in no way addressed a single point I made
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Sounds like a Bronze to GM run…
Lol… Sounds like you’re making excuses because you didn’t want to do your homework or go in for office hours, watch YouTube videos, use the tutorial services provided by schools…
People who genuinely don’t belong in academia and are more suited for trades schools (auto mechanics, dental technicians, service industry professionals “who can gain advancement in other ways).
Overwatch and all competitive games are hard. The ladder is intended to be hard and to genuinely climb requires hard work at learning the game and improving as a player.
Your inability to understand this and trying to marry it to “standardized testing” rather than legitimate hard work is why you are stuck.
Every successful student I know (even the naturally intelligent ones), every player I know (even the naturally gifted ones) reach the limits of their natural talent and are forced to put time in to be successful.
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Hilarious you think I’m stuck. Also maybe you had to put in the work, I ace most tests without trying. Won’t stop me from trying to find out if others are being screwed though.
And no its not underperforming students who do trades lmao most welders I know are an order of magnitude more intelligent than the engineers they perform the work for.
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What’s funny is you’re likening intelligence with academia (which I did not do). Being academically competent is not the same as being “intelligent,” though it’s easy to understand how people get the two confused 
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Ah and here come the emojis lmao. The same welders are more competent in the industry as well. The only difference is that the engineer has a piece of paper that says he can write specs and the welder (usually through lack of desire) does not. Competence is relatively arbitrary in terms of schooling as most schooling is laughably easy for anyone with triple digits iq
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I think its also funny that they wont do MMR reset.
And the entire system is based on law of averages - but they wont do resets.
Its just odd they they changed the system way back in season 1 but just stopped after that. When the game was young they just … stopped. Isnt that odd to anyone else?
Mean while the complaints keep coming.
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so true. I watch them repeatedly take 1v1s and refuse to accept that the enemy player is better.
However, the opposite is also true. Sometimes the gold and plat players send 4 guys to deal with one and ignore positioning and the objective and just lose anyway. But they kill the smurf
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it has never escaped my attention tjat regardless of changes to maps/formats/role
locks/lfg/hero lock/owl, never has there been a wholesale reset of mmr
even when role q came i was sure there must be at least of soft reset but nope every rank used ur old mmr
even now as we transition to a new, the perfect time for an mmr because surely everyone will be sorted by the they release the expansion pack, whenever that is.
and wouldn’t it be nice to incentivise new players to play the old overwatch before diving right into ow2
there’s gonna be a surge of new players and if this mess isn’t cleaned up by the time they arrive,
there’s gonna be a whole new set of even harder problems
The matchmaker has not killed this game.
Multiple accounts killed the matchmaker which has had a significantly detrimental effect on the game, but it’s not dead… yet…
At this rate it won’t last until Overwatch 2!
true but ir was a vicious cycle because alt accounts were made because people were so against the matchmaker
if role q was implemented sooner, or team queue, or map control, or hero bans,
alt accounts would just become irrelevant.