Mass Res Will Return | 10 Reasons Why

[EarthChan-1771]

Oh no she can rez 5 teammates, like old Rez, but the castime just changes based on how many dead allies are in her area

[RevertMercy-1304]

Oh no she can rez 5 teammates, like old Rez, but the castime just changes based on how many dead allies are in her area

I can agree with that.

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[DeadlyAztec-1521]

Genius

[TheMaelstrom-11479]

im a genius lol. thanks.

[RevertMercy-1304]

@BadWidowEU-2419

Idk man. They brought back an ultimate concept from Alpha. At this point, anything is possible.

Agreed. As a wise woman once said.

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[itBeYami-1807]

mass res was dumb, change my mind

[glenmorangie-21307]

Sorry but can someone tell me:
where did the devs said word by word that “mercys rework was a success”?
I only remember that they said thinks like “the support changes were a succes” or something like that.

[krt-21449]

“a Lover of True, Fair, and Fun Balance.” And yet you want old mercy back.
I think now mercy is actually in quite the good state (that’s what her win and pickrates show). Quite honestly I now see a lot of mercy mains branching out into different heroes and roles. That’s perfect in my opinion, because a character shouldn’t be so Op that one tricking her is completely viable and can get you to high ranks. The game is built around swapping and when swapping basically always is worse than staying on mercy then she is (was) OP.

Now maby she underperforms a bit compared to ana but in many comps and situations she is still viable and picked.
That’s the reason she won’t go back to old mercy, because for the first time she is well balanced!

[MagicGnome-230185]

I’d be down with mass rez if it had the same mechics as the current rez: 2 seconds cast time, almost standing still and no invincibility. But i bet that’s how mercy mains want it.

[krt-21449]

"Mass Rez is arguably a lot more balanced than Valkyrie, only needing minor tweaks, versus 10+ sledgehammer nerfs. Looking into pickrates and winrates, mass rez mercy has, on record, never become a 100% must pick with an inflated nearly perfect winrate " that doesn’t mean it’s balanced, if both teams pick mercy the winrate goes to 50%. Her Pickrate was incredibly hight, that’s the problem not her winrate.

[DrDangerRuss-2439]

Here are 10 reasons why I believe that Mass Ressurect is Returning to Overwatch. Get your popcorn, this will be a long one.

1. Ressurect was changed based on an opinion of it being “unfun to play against” instead of actual statistics and data. “Hide and Res” was also an argument used to push the rework - when in reality, Mercy still needs to hide in order to res even today.

If the devs decide its overpowered, its overpowered - hang your statistics.

Hide and res isnt a thing now. Hide behind a shield and res? Maybe

2. Mass Rez is arguably a lot more balanced than Valkyrie, only needing minor tweaks, versus 10+ sledgehammer nerfs. Looking into pickrates and winrates, mass rez mercy has, on record, never become a 100% must pick with an inflated nearly perfect winrate like she’s had in her initial Valkyrie form, but was seen as a niche, almost a troll pick who needed buffs. Even after her invincibility buffs, she was still no where near as much of a must pick as she’s had in Valk. Of course, this has been proven multiple times already, so I’ll leave it at that.

100% pick rate lol.

Valk is worse than mass res. Mercy recieved other buffs that made her more viable - her other kit is different, so comparing ults is silly.

3. The forced rework caused Mercy to be extremely overpowered for 5 months straight, then gutted into the unimpactful state she is currently in now. People have been complaining about her state as either being, both Mercy mains and non-Mercy mains, ever since.

You say “forced” the devs and me say “needed”.
They’ve said that mercy is getting more attention, calm

4. Due to her rework, there has been a huge increase in toxicity against Mercy. Hate videos on social media demonizing the hero, ignoring entire mega-threads worth of feedback, her player-base in the community being called out as various derogatory slurs (from being entitled to being cultists), and even a skit sponsored by OWL themselves that mocked the hero, and by extension, Mercy players. Such hatred was never so extreme against the video game character prior to her vast changes, and it existing in such a way wouldn’t exist if she wasn’t made a must pick.

…And a huge amount of spam threads by whining mercy mains (i’m a mercy main). Hows about stop the threads?

Also, uh, Hanzo Main is a bigger insult.

5. Generally, reverting is a safer option in terms of development and has been proven to work in countless applications. Since assets of Mass Ressurect were created already, it would be not only easier to re-introduce into the game, but it would also be faster than reinventing the wheel with coming up with yet another rework that would risk making her OP for another 5 months.

Its not safer, because you dont understand the game like the devs do. They did it for the good of the game.

6. Torbjorn and Hammond’s Ultimate, and the amount of CC in this game directly counter Mass ressurect, so it’s inclusion would not only be easier, and faster to do, but it would also be even easier to play against versus back then and versus Flying into the skybox in Spectator Mode for 12 seconds Valkyrie.

So, you’re saying that the game is different and reverting mass res would throw balance off?

7. Since the statement by Jeff, “We have no plans to revert Mercy… But I’d like to put the notion that Mercy is going to be reverted to rest.” Mercy has been reverted at least twice already. First when her Old voiceline, “Heroes Never Die!” made a comeback, and later when her healing was reverted from 60hp back to 50hps, the same healing output she’s had during her Mass res days. Following the trend, reverting her is nothing new, and has been done before - signifying a literal change of plans from what was said before.

Voice lines arent ultimates. Healing changes arent ultimates.

8. On the contrary, there is no documented source from any dev making the statement of “mass rez is not going to come back.” Any source that does is interpretation on the wording spoken about previously by Jeff, and as was stated in #7, such a statement has already been debunked.

You just quoted the part where Jeff said its not coming back.

9. Resurrect on E has been the bane of Mercy’s existence. Being both uninpactful and unengaging by the masses, and a development nightmare to try and balance around. Since they have already stated that they aren’t going to remove the ability, due to it being iconic in nature, reverting the hero by putting it back as an Ultimate and then tweaking it from there is a very valid solution to her current state.

Yet people still think its overpowered. Learn to press E better.

10. We’ve tried Valkyrie for an entire year, and with how her winrates are currently, the general consensus about her being very boring and unimpactful to play by a large amount of the community with the huge drop in her usage rates, it’s proven to have failed. We’ve never tried Mass res with the modern tweaks such as LoS and a cast time like she has now, and with all the counters to her kit today, I believe that with those fixes, she would be in a way better state that she is in now while still being balanced, fair, and fun to play.

Changing her ult wont make her more fun. Changing her KIT will make her more fun. Give back 60hps and let me use my gun more.

I believe It’s time to bring Mercy back, and give the people the respect, glory, and impact they deserve with her instead of forcing upon them reworks they never wanted in the first place. I believe it’s time for Mass res to return + the tweaks, give her a different E move (Be it Pacify, Halo, Valk watered down, or something else), and call it a day.

Nah.

And to the inevitable response of “Just switch to a different hero!” Well I ask, why should Mercy suffer at the cost of everyone else? Why should we just be okay with one of our heroes be made broken for 5 months and then gutted? We can disagree on a LOT of things, but let’s be honest with ourselves for a second. Mercy and her fanbase didn’t deserve to be treated like that. NO hero and it’s fanbase deserves to be treated like that. Switching is fine, but it doesn’t solve nor address her actual problems.

Sure, play her then, just stop complaining.

We deserve as an Overwatch community to have all of our heroes to be both fun to play, and balanced as well, not sacrificing one at the cost of the other. I personally believe that solution for Mercy is a revert, as I’m sure a lot of people also would want as well, but of course that’s just my opinion, and I respect those who don’t agree with it. Just my two cents on the matter.

But what do you think? Do you agree with this list? Disagree? Maybe you’re indifferent. Let’s keep it positive & classy, post your thoughts below, and thank you for reading.

Other characters are in a worse place. The revert wont fix mercy. Please, stop whining and you’ll stop people thinking mercy mains are whiners.

And yes, i am a mercy main.

[Alstroe-11188]

DangeRuss… Is your name Russell?

[DrDangerRuss-2439]

Yeah, but i go by Russ most of the time.

And yeah, Danger is my…

…middle name…

[Alstroe-11188]

Aye same and yeah I also go by Russ too

[itBeYami-1807]

jeff said it in a dev update

[benlegend443-4743]

focusing on her healing output basically makes a second Moira. And a weaker one at that.

[Dasaries-11327]

Im 100% for this Revert or Re-implementation of Mass Rez.

Yes, I have some “no life” time with blizzard games here. SO I would like to chime up and talk about my shared experiences with THIS game and their past games. I love the blizzard design and experience. It’s immersive and it’s fun. The one thing that doesn’t work so well, is when community healers are UNHAPPY.

Since mercy rework, 1 year ago. This has created the biggest outcry on Blizzard’s community since They removed (patched-out) the “pure, Tree form” from the Resto druids, on their HIT (now former) “Cash cow” World of Warcraft. It was MAJOR backlash. and a community that NEVER HEALED ITSELF. minus 14 million subs later, it shows and reflects…

That patch had similar impacts. Resto druids were HEALERS. and by having the abilities at the time (prior to that patch) And it cut down on the healer’s stress, by having tree form. I know what healing is like for WoW’s RAIDS. They are INTENSE. if there is one thing that BLizzard knows, is how to make a game and make it GREAT and AWESOME, with tons of action.

That said, there is tons of damage that goes out in the game. So everything that was “chain heals”, “chain rez” kept the games GOING. It is paramount to Blizzard’s design style that having something, which takes the stress off of healers, It is required. Since these two (very similiar) patches, healers are OVER TAXED.

I agree, the healer is the wild card. Where if the healer isn’t doing their job, the game becomes a mess. And that off-healer characters are mandatory. Because if Mercy is playing mercy, and she cant do her job, then other healers can step in and pick up the slack, for whatever reason there is.

The whole NEW “2 healer pick meta” is what causes their damage graphs to be distorted. Because a slot which a DPS would have been at, is now a second healer. That healer is EXPECTED to do damage now.

If you play as mercy and do NOT fire your pistol even once, (since you are healing) you will still hear people complain about “not enough dps going out”.

Which is why we have Moira, ana and zen. They heal and they attack. This is really what makes sense here. Is that they want a compound healer to deliver damage when healing isn’t needed, and to heal when it is.

This creates PROBLEMS, across the board. Because it means that Ana has to Disengage the target she is healing and quickly deal damage or as we know as “off damage” towards the enemy team. This creates these pockets and spikes in overall game damage.

The same goes for Lucio and moira. This means that Lucio has to change to a healing Aura, and back to a damage aura very quickly, and often it can mean that someone in his circle whom should have been healed, isn’t and they are RIGHT back in the spawn room… Which goes back to Moira just as much.

Honestly, it’s really going to be changes that are ONLY catered to the upper 25% of players in this game. They see the game differently than we do. and that’s reasonable. I mean they have MUCh higher skill-sets we do. But, it’s the SAME reason the WoW community broke. The Arena players are the celebrities of the game, and they ONLY adjusted to what they had to say. The same thing goes for the Overwatch league and Comp players in the upper tiers. They are the celebrities of the game.

Cheers, GL

[HalfBaked-11751]

Reasons Mass Rez won’t come back:
1- “No”- Jeff Kaplan

[oRcimTV-1763]

I miss the days when you were the last person alive on a almost team wipe and you got a crazy rez off, now mercy just sits behind a rein and rez one person its so boring, i miss that anticipation\excitement and having to use ult at the right time as apposed to just mashing e every few mins. Valky is so boring .Mercy is quite boring now still a great asset to a team but boring.

[Lilian-11293]

So basically bringing back mass rez with it needing to be channeled for 2 seconds? Atleast that way, we could counter it, and she could lose her ult that way, instead of the instantaneous mass revive where she could either use it or lose it and still keep the ult. I still don’t want mass rez to be back.

She just function a bit differently now, with more emphasis on who to revive during the match with the revive ability. But, if they could buff her with a new mechanic, like if the person the Mercy is healing doesn’t take damage or having their barrier damaged, they gain an additional 20 per second heal rate from her 50 per second heal rate.

I think Valkyrie is like Uber from TF2, use it when your team is going into a team fight that they have to win rather than save it for when the enemy team ults