Marvel Rival doesn't scratch the OW itch?

They are going to balance away your crutches and you will drop the game. Hela and Hawkeye will be balanced into Black Widow tier and you will be shown the door.

The only reason why they are OP is that they werent tested in beta. They have already said that they will not make the same mistakes that OW did. Hitscans and head clickers will not rule at the cost of everyone else.

Yeah to a game that should know better than to betray itself at every other point.

Again I am not outright saying that Rivals is objectively better. But the game feels better than OW for many because OW spent 8 years betraying itself and in the process their own players. Because the Rivals gameplay goes along with the heroes they have, while a third of OW heroes are pretty much defunct and abandoned.

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This. People forget that this game came out originally to compete as a shooter MOBA. They never intented to dethrone TF2 as the hero shooter.

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You’re in the minority for still playing this game, tbh.

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We shall see in 12 months when MR will have updates.

I was thinking of those people who do come on the forums to answer topics or just open new ones basically saying “MR is better” or “MR hero is better”.

If one could explain why they like more in MR and wish for OW to think about it, its not someone I was thinking about.

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No, it’s not just you. They just don’t feel similar to play at all. Different gameplay styles, and Rivals is far less polished and precise.

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The devs already mentioned they wont make the same mistakes that OW has, like letting snipers run free.

Black Widow exists as a balanced, no oneshot sniper for a reason, and Hawkeye/Hela only exist in their current state because the game is on its unofficial last beta and they werent tested before launch.

I can only guess but for them MR feels better because MR heroes feel like they fit within the game, while a lot of OW heroes have been abandoned with the direction that OW has taken.

Then you have to ask those people.

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Promises only bind those who believe them.
Pretty sure people believed in PvE, believed when OW devs told they were testing their heroes before Brig release.
If people feel betrayed, its because, with time, OW took a different direction people didn’t expect/want.

Only time will decide if MR designers are that better than OW designers.
As for now, MR is 3 weeks old, still feels fresh and had no major update capable of sowing any feel of betrayal.

We’re back at my first idea : if MR feels better for one player, it’s weird, imho, to take time to come to post on OW forums to tell “MR is better” without any further explanation.

Because again, that means OW is stuck on their minds as they play MR and it haunts them until they come to the forums.

isn’t it strange, for a better game to not being able to chase a worse one from players mind ?

We can only guess the reality of their thoughts. Their answers are rarely more interesting than repeating that OW sucks.

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I mean yeah I agree, but complaining about it is also weird unless you made the effort to get a reason out of them.

Not if the worse game was dear in your heart. There are many people who to this day still have a reluctant emotional attachment to OW despite feeling like they are no longer the players meant to play it.

Again, playing to FFXIV doesnt mean I dont have or cant have opinions about WoW. The same applies to OW and MR.

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Yeah this genuienly, it just feel so different. IDK how people really compare it, I mean it has similar ability but if that was true people would compare OW to Dota.

IDK TPS hero shooter just don’t hit the fps feel

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I’m not complaining people coming to tell they like MR more as long as they can bring something helpful to OW as this is OW forums.

But do you go on WoW forums just to post " FF XIV does better than WOW (final dot)" ?

I was mainly expressing my guess about those people coming just to post such short messages. I do believe OW is dear to their heart but imo, its a weird way to tell it. And if a game’s still dear to your heart, it means somehow, you still like it.

Won’t make the same mistakes, huh?

There’s no role queue. Mistake 1.

Hawkeye and Hela are way too OP and miserable to play against. Mistake 2 and 3.

Anti-cheat is a joke. Mistake 4.

Reporting system is cosmetic. Mistake 5.

Spyware. Mistake 6 (Overwatch actually doesn’t have this problem)

Hitscans are more dominant than projectiles instead of being an equal. Mistake 7.

Competitive mode is a joke, you can leave every game and you’ll only get a 15 minute ban. Mistake 8.

Balance is a joke, yet they want the game to be in the competitive market. Mistake 9.

Tanks and Supports have less heroes combined than Damage. Mistake 10.

I can keep going cause it’s funny seeing Disney China shills parade on an Overwatch forum that Rivals is better. Delusional, emotional people who need to be heard I guess.

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It’s only a matter of time before the Rivals shills get laughed off these forums after the honeymoon phase lmao

I predict massive issues and massive player loss within a year

Open queue will make so many players quit, just like it did for Overwatch. And somehow the Rivals devs didn’t learn from that. Insanity

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They already are being laughed at, they’re just shameless and showing off how addicted they are to Overwatch by staying on these forums instead of going on theirs :skull:

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Competition is always healthy to games. OW never had any real competition and that is also what has allowed them to abuse so many players for the sake of viewership and retention.

Absolutely lol

WoW paraded itself as the pinnacle of MMO experience, and many of the things that FFXIV accomplished were things the WoW devs and playerbase claimed were not possible for years.

‘‘That game does/did this, what is stopping this game from doing it too?’’ is a healthy thing to ask.

  1. The game literally just released. Open queue is needed to test heroes in all kinds of situations and see if and what kind of role queue is necessary.
  2. OP heroes existing so shortly after launch is not a mistake. Looking the other way and breaking the game to maintain their existence is. And they have basically said that the way Blizz protected Widow/Tracer was a mistake. Hela and Hawkeye are untested heroes that released along the game and will be balanced out eventually.
  3. People have discovered that anti-cheat is on data gathering mode and will likely come fully online on Season 1 onwards.
  4. Reporting seems fine so far and in fact they outright tell you when they punish offenders.
  5. What do you think anti-cheat is.
  6. Balance is bound to be wonky this early but also the differences are far less pronounced that in OW.
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It’s just plain wrong but whatever, i get back on ow2 and i get the overwhelming urge to play MR, it’s just more fun right now, seem to be the case for most people…

but the correct take that you don’t see anywhere is both games are kinda mid if you really dig deep, MR is new tho they can still prove themselves

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Another fatal mistake: UNREAL ENGINE 5. The way they cheap’d out instead of just building their own engine that can actually handle the craziness of the abilities was the biggest offense to me.

and love how you dodged the Spyware. The Tank/Support inequality. The lenient leaving penalty and the hitscan domination that has plagued OW for years.

but keep making excuses for the “flawless game that supposed to not have the same mistakes” :joy:

Both of these trash games got issues, but saying one is better than the other is redundant and emotionally bias.

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Oh no this I agree lol. UR5 is literally the scum of the earth.

This is the difference tho.

OW is a 8 year old game where Blizz had multiple, several instances to fix things and opt to do the exact opposite because corporate mandated.

Stop strawmanning. I didnt say they didnt make mistakes. But I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt in the kind of direction they want to take the game on.

Giving MR the benefit of the doubt in the direction it will be taken into is not ‘‘saying they cant make any mistakes’’.

Because I dont care lol

One is better right now because MR’s balance and design is far more untouched by corporate than the other and has windows to grow and improve. Whatever that will stay a year from now is anyone’s guess, but the truth is that people will rather play the game that hasnt burned them out of enjoying it as a direction.

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Also Marvel rivals is better because Venom and Black Panther are caked tf up while Overwatch fears giving men more than planks for backsides.

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They have a chance to improve, same with Blizz and I understand why everyone is siding with MR, people are burnt out after dropping 2,000+ hours on the game over the years. I understand.

I’m poking at what you said earlier. You claimed the devs said “they won’t be making the same mistakes as OW” and they proceeded to make the same mistakes, lol.