Am I in the minority that think Marvel Rival didn’t scratch the OW itch? The amount of times I hear that Marvel Rival is a better overwatch when the gameplay style feels closer to something akin to smite or gigantic with it’s more brawly fast pace style gameplay rather than what OW has to offer.
I’m not here to bash Marvel Rival, I’m just a bit disappointed. With all the buzz going around I really thought there would be a genuine OW alternative, I’m a bit tired when the only alternative it has(paladins) is just a dumpster fire of bugs.
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There’s of course plenty of criticism to be had about OW,but hating on it is also just really trendy,so people are over exaggerating when it comes to Marvel Rivals.
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I guess that’s true, I really shouldn’t have been to caught up on the hype
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Definitely in the same boat as you. For me it’s worse cause I just see and feel the worst parts of OW1 dialed up to 11. I don’t get much satisfaction nor fun out of playing that game, and I’m only doing it for the rewards at this point.
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The only itch I have for it is there’s 33 heroes to try out.
Gameplay wise I see very actual reason to try it though
What it offers from a game perspective I already get out of this game
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Yes and you’re being delusional. OW2 just hit the lowest peak of concurrent player count on steam since ever, 31.000 concurrent players. That’s the lowest peak for OW on steam. They did this sad milestone with:
- 6vs6 event
- Free skins
- Season with new hero
Is safe to say that this season is a complete failure. They may need to reduce their budget for the future.
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It scratches the itch for me at least, but I dont care to much about the shooter aspect and in my opinion OW leans to much into being competitive rather than fun.
Ults are a perfect example. Not a single OW ult feels as cool as ults in Marvel and that surprised me the most.
Maybe Deadlock (more MOBA direction), will be an alternative for you. I am thankful for Marvel, because I was stuck with OW for so long without an alternative.
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The thing about Rivals is that its different to OW and anyone saying that it ‘‘scratches’’ the same itch is not really being serious.
The difference is that Rivals feels like a realized game that still hasnt betrayed its own identity for the sake of chasing gaming fads like OW did.
OW doesnt feel for many people because the devs keep pushing the game into a direction that is not sustainable or fun within the game’s own identity. Meanwhile Rivals completely owns its brawly, more fast paced gameplay and started from the very beginning with it.
OW was supposed to be a more methodical game with more meaningful hero interactions and more unique heroes, but corporate didnt want this game. Corporate wanted Call of Valopex, and demanded the devs this direction.
I am having way more fun on Rivals because not only I am seeing as its own game but also I am not actively punished for picking a hero that happened to make a streamer mad and got nerfed for years because of it.
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Maybe its just me but I couldnt call OW a ‘‘competitive’’ game when it meta enforces and babysits popular heroes so much. A game that actively sabotages actual fair competition between heroes can not be called ‘‘competitive’’.
‘‘Competitive’’ and ‘‘sweaty’’ are not really the same thing. Most of the remaining ‘‘competitive’’ OW playerbase doesnt want competition, they want an endless status quo that favors them.
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The fact that people still have OW in mind when they play MR show that MR ain’t actually better…
I mean, when I discover a game I enjoy, I just forget about the worse ones.
The funniest are people coming to the forum, taking time to post here that MR is better than OW.
Could you imagine that ? Playing like 1hour of MR and yet having OW stuck in your mind for the whole time needed to launch internet browser, coming to the forums, creating a new post and writing it.
People are just using MR to say modestly that they still love OW and they hope it gets better.
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I was leaning into the shooter of the genre, I really didn’t think MR would be closer to something like battlerite tbh. TBH yeah Deadlock is something that I’m waiting bc it remind me of gigantic with it being more moba centric
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There is no logic behind this. Do you think that just because I like pizza I will forget about sushi?
Its almost as if people care about OW and how it not being fun anymore is a problem for them.
Despite everything and moving to FFXIV permanently, I still care a bit about WoW enough to have an opinion about it.
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Marvel Rivals does it way better, i’m Cassidy and Hanzo on steroids. Hela and Hawkeye are far superior
Marvel Rivals quickplay experience is so chill too, just stomp kids where Overwatch quickplay is a sweat fest gotta hard carry on the weakest role in the game
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If one considers MR and OW are very similar games, I don’t get why people who play both games if they think thant one is clearly better than the other.
I mean. I liked Civ5 but I prefer 6th and I’ve never launcher 5 again. Same for Street Fighter. Same for UTnreal Tournament…
If people do care about Ow, they need to think how saying “MR is better” would help OW to get better ?
Just asking for magically devs finding what people want but they can’t word it ?
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Admittedly I’ve only played MR once so far, so I’ll have to give it some more tries to form a full opinion, but my first couple of hours didn’t draw me into the game like OW did.
I didn’t particularly like the way the heroes played. They don’t feel nearly as smooth as in OW and it reminded me more of Paladins in that respect. Another game I that draw me in.
The 3rd person feels odd too. You can be standing at a corner and crosshair on target and then realise your shots are all hitting the corner of the wall, but it is not obvious to see.
During games I had no clue what was going on much of the time. The maps I played seemed much less well thought-out than OW maps (even though I only like a small number of those). Points which were very enclosed, or carts going along narrow channels (which is complained about a lot in OW).
I basically didn’t have a clue what was going on most of the time, even though I should have as an OW player. The heroes seemed very mismatched. I played a couple that just seemed to get run over with nothing much I could do to stop it.
Overall, I would say I am still in the OW camp. I did enjoy not getting constantly anti-naded when playing tank. That might be enough for me to keep trying as that’s the thing that has made me play less and less OW recently. No Ana is a blessing for any game. And I didn’t feel snipers were nearly as oppressive as Widow, but that is perhaps just my level of play.
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I guess I’m delulu because I genuinely don’t feel like playing OW when I’m playing marvel, marvel just remind me of that plant v zombie shooter and (not to be dissrespect) fortnite(in a good way, I know not a lot of peps here like it).
I mainly play MR at this point because:
- I invested early and though I regret it, I might as well keep playing since I have several skins and did the battlepass in a week.
- My brother is the only person I play with and he refuses to play OW but will play Marvel Rivals.
Outside of that, I couldn’t be bothered to log into MR for nearly a week and only did so to get the free Jeff skin. I play that game begrudgingly, not because I have fun.
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Its less about being objectively better and more about Rivals not betraying itself like OW has.
Of course there isnt also a single reason why Rivals is better. Some people enjoy the more faster paced, brawly gameplay, and some people enjoy that so far heroes arent castrated for the sake of pro-play or popular hero pandering.
I can go into OW and pick an overnerfed husk of a hero like Sym and struggle despite being a hero that I had years to masters… or I can go into Rivals and pick Namor and feel so much better because NetEase hasnt determined that he is a danger to viewership or whatever.
Again, there are so many aspects that Rivals doesnt exactly do better but instead doesnt do outright wrong like OW has over the years.
For me, its that the Rivals gameplay is congruent with what they want the game to be. And within its own bubble, it feels good, early wonky unbalance aside. Its a game that I can give the benefit of the doubt because its the first shooter the studio has done AND its basically still in its open beta status.
OW’s gameplay direction and philosophy is incongruent with the very identity that made the game a beloved GOTY. Too many heroes allowed to be a protected ruling class and too many heroes just abandoned by the devs for any ‘‘annoyance’’ that loud people might have.
OW betrayed itself and as a Symmetra player I have probably been one of the most negatively affected players by this self-betrayal. Why would I not say ‘‘Rivals so far hasnt condemned its own heroes and their players to a subpar experience’’ when its basically the truth?
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Marvel Rivals literally has the noob heroes as some of the weakest heroes in the game. They balanced them perfectly. Squirrel girl, scarlet witch, cloak and dagger all are mid
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Cause you’re comparing a game released for less than one month to a 2+ years version of a 8years game.
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